The Reality of Living in Australia and Covid

[El Pinguino]

On the 19th of August our prime muppet made an announcement.
He announced that from mid September children from 16 years up could get Phizer from 30th August.. much rejoicing in the provinces.
https://thenewdaily.com.au/news/coro...ccine-16-over/

Four days ago he - the Prime Minister for Morrison - announced that the next day there would be yet another announcement and wonder of wonders when the sun rose there was yet another announcement .
12 year and older can get Phizer from mid September!
Happy? The populace is ecstatic! Words just cannot describe the rejoicing!!
https://www.skynews.com.au/australia...f95b7eebea5383


Sadly the rejoicing is short lived.
It would appear there is no Phizer
https://www.theage.com.au/national/v...30-p58n0i.html
At the present time no-one in Victoria can book a Phizer shot - all taken - sorry.
So its all a bit of a fizzer - bugger!

Australia Hotel in Cairns?
Only watering hole I recall in Cairns was the 'Spearthrowers Arms' on Wharf Street (?) but that was over 50 years ago.

[El Pinguino]

Oh dear,
'Mr Morrison revealed the forecast in Parliament on Monday in comments that warned of a higher rate in NSW, where patients would take up 20 per cent of ICU beds, and promised new advice this week on how to make the hospital system more resilient.'
Yet another promise about a 'State' health issue which he has no control over

https://www.theage.com.au/politics/f...30-p58n94.html

[Wotname]

Originally Posted by El Pinguino

On the 19th of August our prime muppet made an announcement.
He announced that from mid September children from 16 years up could get Phizer from 30th August.. much rejoicing in the provinces.
https://thenewdaily.com.au/news/coro...ccine-16-over/

Four days ago he - the Prime Minister for Morrison - announced that the next day there would be yet another announcement and wonder of wonders when the sun rose there was yet another announcement .
12 year and older can get Phizer from mid September!
Happy? The populace is ecstatic! Words just cannot describe the rejoicing!!
https://www.skynews.com.au/australia...f95b7eebea5383


Sadly the rejoicing is short lived.
It would appear there is no Phizer
https://www.theage.com.au/national/v...30-p58n0i.html
At the present time no-one in Victoria can book a Phizer shot - all taken - sorry.
So its all a bit of a fizzer - bugger!

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You can't believe everything you read in the papers. Sometimes it is better to go to the official government sources and get the truth direct from the horse's mouth.

Who better than head horse himself so I went looking. According to his written word way back on Feb 21, 2021, Australia secured 150 million vaccine doses. Hmm... the population is ~25 million so by my reckoning, that is three times more than we need at the moment. So plenty to go around, no wuckers!

See https://www.pm.gov.au/media/first-covid-19-vaccinations

Yet here we some six months later and still not enough. My conclusion is I was mistaken in thinking I was getting the truth from the head horse's mouth, more likely I was getting horse dung from the head horse's ****.

Won't make that mistake again

[RaymondR]

Originally Posted by Wotname

You can't believe everything you read in the papers. Sometimes it is better to go to the official government sources and get the truth direct from the horse's mouth.

Who better than head horse himself so I went looking. According to his written word way back on Feb 21, 2021, Australia secured 150 million vaccine doses. Hmm... the population is ~25 million so by my reckoning, that is three times more than we need at the moment. So plenty to go around, no wuckers!

See https://www.pm.gov.au/media/first-covid-19-vaccinations

Yet here we some six months later and still not enough. My conclusion is I was mistaken in thinking I was getting the truth from the head horse's mouth, more likely I was getting horse dung from the head horse's ****.

Won't make that mistake again

About 50% of the Astra Zenica vaccine which has been purchased is readily available to the states from the federal government.

The cat has been belled as to why the WA border closures have been so often and vigorously applied.

It has been made public that the WA health service is so decrepit that it is already struggling and neglected even with zero covid cases in that state.

[goboatingnow]

Originally Posted by Cadence

i could give a damn about who made the vaccine. It's my understanding that they just make your symptoms less by whatever % they tout not the chance of contracting it. It sounds as though even vaccinated you could be typhoid Mary?

I hope that vaccine is what he said it is but somehow doubt it.

Nothing in the data , other then your personal myopia supports what you said in that post

Hospitalisations are running 4:1 with unvaccinated.

[JPA Cate]

^^^Above is true as far as it goes, but since there can be breakthrough infection, yes, even vaccinated, a person can transmit the virus while they are incubating it and without symptoms. That is the reason for mask wearing. Once we get past the 80% rate of vaccination, then we won't be able to overwhelm the health care facilities.

Ann

[goboatingnow]

Originally Posted by JPA Cate

^^^Above is true as far as it goes, but since there can be breakthrough infection, yes, even vaccinated, a person can transmit the virus while they are incubating it and without symptoms. That is the reason for mask wearing. Once we get past the 80% rate of vaccination, then we won't be able to overwhelm the health care facilities.

Ann

indeed lets hope so , currently in ireland for example we are at 86% of all adults ( 16+) vaccinated , 90% is the goal

[Cadence]

Originally Posted by goboatingnow

Nothing in the data , other then your personal myopia supports what you said in that post

Hospitalisations are running 4:1 with unvaccinated.

I got that from my Dr. and I have COPD so having it bad would be lights out.. Believe what you like. Maybe it is because the vaccinated aren't in need of hospitalization. Speaking of myopia is it factual or political?
And please don't make it an attack on someone's intentions.

[goboatingnow]

Originally Posted by Cadence View Post
i could give a damn about who made the vaccine. It's my understanding that they just make your symptoms less by whatever % they tout not the chance of contracting it. It sounds as though even vaccinated you could be typhoid Mary?

I hope that vaccine is what he said it is but somehow doubt it.

again the vaccine works, is it perfect , no , but its the only way out of this pandemic without lots of people getting really sick or dying

[boatman61]

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world...?ocid=msedgntp

[El Pinguino]

Meanwhile 62% want Australia to open up at 70% vaxxed

From the Guardian
'Morrison’s line has now become “Why wouldn’t people want to open up the country when we hit 70 and 80 per cent?”. And there has been some commentary that his position is politically smart.

But really, the poll conducted for Nine newspapers this week by Resolve Strategic is hardly definitive. Sure, 62% answered yes, but the question they were asked was pretty convoluted: “Some state and territory leaders have suggested they might apply different rules at different times, such as using less severe restrictions once their populations reach 50 per cent vaccination or easing restrictions at 70 and 80 per cent if case numbers are still high. Do you think that each state and territory should stick to the national plan of 70 and 80 per cent or do you think they should have the freedom to decide on their own goals?”

At that point I’m inclined to answer yes just to stop the questioner from talking.'

[Wotname]

Meanwhile SA tourists are flocking to Tasmania. In essence, NSW and VIC are closed to them and many are stating they are unsure about QLD ability to remain Covid free (in the short term), WA is too risky (they may get lockdowned for the duration of their holiday period in a nanosecond) so they are jumping on the few direct SA/TAS flights for a mask free eating, drinking and activity filled holiday. All normal businesses are open here and have been for the past year.

Of course it may not last....

[El Pinguino]

Originally Posted by RaymondR

About 50% of the Astra Zenica vaccine which has been purchased is readily available to the states from the federal government.

The cat has been belled as to why the WA border closures have been so often and vigorously applied.

It has been made public that the WA health service is so decrepit that it is already struggling and neglected even with zero covid cases in that state.

I think people in WA have known about it for some time - its just that we in the east have just heard about it.

[Wotname]

Originally Posted by RaymondR

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The cat has been belled as to why the WA border closures have been so often and vigorously applied.

It has been made public that the WA health service is so decrepit that it is already struggling and neglected even with zero covid cases in that state.

It ain't just WA health, TAS health has been at breaking point (and getting worse) for some time now. Anything more than handful of hospitalised Covid patients will have it in freefall.

So yes, they are very keen down here to keep the moat filled.

For overseas readers, WA & TAS are at the opposite ends of the political spectrum so it ain't politics that is the problem (in this instance).

[GILow]

Originally Posted by El Pinguino

I think people in WA have known about it for some time - its just that we in the east have just heard about it.

I believe the WA health system has suffered from the boom and bust nature of the WA economy. Health requires long term financial commitment, not one-off cash injections when mining is good.

Meanwhile, poor old Tasmania is in a similar basket, but without the boom bit. General advice to me from health professionals down here is “Don’t get sick... no... really... don’t!”