18-12-2021, 23:24
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Re: The Reality of Living in Australia and Covid
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Originally Posted by RaymondR
Is it my decaying old memory or was the excuse for all the restrictions placed on our freedom of movement a need to "flatten the curve" so that the health system did not become overloaded?
Well the buggers have now had two years or so to get the health system in shape and they are still going overboard with the restrictions.
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Maybe it is your memory - do you recall that a couple of weeks ago a new variant appeared on the scene. It is called omicron and if you dig around in the memory bank, you will recall it is much more transmissible than the previous variants and evades the existing vaccines rather well.
Of course it is too early to know if the curve needs to flattened again or not.
But hey, no one wants to miss out on seeing rellies at Christmas!
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18-12-2021, 23:28
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#2132
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Re: The Reality of Living in Australia and Covid
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Originally Posted by El Pinguino
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RayR is half right though. Masks are now required indoors (from tomorrow night) in Tassie - first time ever since the fracas began two years ago and less than a week after letting those VIC and NSW hot-spotters in.
They were sure they had all the curve flatteners in place down here but omicron is a curve ball.
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18-12-2021, 23:33
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#2133
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Re: The Reality of Living in Australia and Covid
Mask mandate in Tasmania as of this Tuesday...
Peter Gutwein may be looking for a job next election unless he puts our island drawbridge back up.
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18-12-2021, 23:54
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#2134
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Re: The Reality of Living in Australia and Covid
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Originally Posted by Lucky Luke 1
Mask mandate in Tasmania as of this Tuesday...
Peter Gutwein may be looking for a job next election unless he puts our island drawbridge back up.
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Masks? Golly - the end of life as we know it!!
You need that drawbridge down so we big islanders can keep freshening the Tasmanian genepool.
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19-12-2021, 00:33
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#2135
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Re: The Reality of Living in Australia and Covid
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Originally Posted by El Pinguino
Masks? Golly - the end of life as we know it!!
You need that drawbridge down so we big islanders can keep freshening the Tasmanian genepool.
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There's been a big enough influx of those the last 2 years to keep it refreshed for quite some time. It was wonderful when they just simply quarantined before buying up Real-estate and moving in. Now we just let plaque spreaders in willy nilly and life has changed drastically in just a few days. I haven't spoken to one person who was happy with us changing our border policy and this mask mandate is extremely unpopular already. Bars, clubs, restaurants etc will lose a lot of money over the busiest time of the year.
We were going away for a few days next week to the East coast but are now thinking of cancelling.
I understand your tongue in cheek comment but remember life has been normal for us since early 2020.
Looks like WA has done the right thing and stayed shut.
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20-12-2021, 12:12
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Re: The Reality of Living in Australia and Covid
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Originally Posted by Lucky Luke 1
There's been a big enough influx of those the last 2 years to keep it refreshed for quite some time. It was wonderful when they just simply quarantined before buying up Real-estate and moving in. Now we just let plaque spreaders in willy nilly and life has changed drastically in just a few days. I haven't spoken to one person who was happy with us changing our border policy and this mask mandate is extremely unpopular already. Bars, clubs, restaurants etc will lose a lot of money over the busiest time of the year.
We were going away for a few days next week to the East coast but are now thinking of cancelling.
I understand your tongue in cheek comment but remember life has been normal for us since early 2020.
Looks like WA has done the right thing and stayed shut.
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Yep, no doubt about it we need to start building walls around our cities and towns with city gates to keep all those diseased outsiders out?
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20-12-2021, 13:21
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Re: The Reality of Living in Australia and Covid
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Yep, no doubt about it we need to start building walls around our cities and towns with city gates to keep all those diseased outsiders out?
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Tasmania wouldn't last a week if the ships stopped running. I would suggest 90% of the items on the supermarket shelves comes from the mainland - even the dog food.
So best they keep the borders open.
Oh - they do have Boags.
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21-12-2021, 00:23
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Re: The Reality of Living in Australia and Covid
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Originally Posted by El Pinguino
Tasmania wouldn't last a week if the ships stopped running. I would suggest 90% of the items on the supermarket shelves comes from the mainland - even the dog food.
So best they keep the borders open.
Oh - they do have Boags.
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Ships have been coming in as have people for the last 2 years.
I get my meat direct from a farmer and its been so cheap over covid as we produce so much and the majority of it goes to the mainland or over seas, veggie's and fish the same- Crayfish is cheap again this year (i dont get veggies delivered but stuff in season is well priced and farm direct fresh)
https://tasmanianpetfood.com/
We also have lots of horses..
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21-12-2021, 00:33
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#2139
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Re: The Reality of Living in Australia and Covid
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Yep, no doubt about it we need to start building walls around our cities and towns with city gates to keep all those diseased outsiders out?
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No, it doesn't really work unless a place is isolated (eg WA and the NT) or surrounded by water.
Quarantine used to be a big thing many years ago all over the world.
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21-12-2021, 00:47
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Re: The Reality of Living in Australia and Covid
The plan has worked. People don't learn from history. Divide and conquer. Fear has been planted and it spread faster than plaque. People hate other people, countries against countries or states vs states. Western Australians hate Queenslanders, Tasmanians hate Victorians, Northern Territorians afraid of everyone else. Shut the borders, pull up the barb wire fences, and get the guns out.
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21-12-2021, 00:55
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Re: The Reality of Living in Australia and Covid
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Originally Posted by ahun
The plan has worked. People don't learn from history. Divide and conquer. Fear has been planted and it spread faster than plaque. People hate other people, countries against countries or states vs states. Western Australians hate Queenslanders, Tasmanians hate Victorians, Northern Territorians afraid of everyone else. Shut the borders, pull up the barb wire fences, and get the guns out.
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Oh please, take your misinformation and hate some place else.
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21-12-2021, 00:59
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Re: The Reality of Living in Australia and Covid
I didn't ask your opinion.
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21-12-2021, 01:00
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Re: The Reality of Living in Australia and Covid
Without tourists Tasmania is a parasitic growth on the bottom of Australia.
The state's biggest employment sector is Health Care and Social Assistance ie Centrelink at about 16% - which just uses money rather than creates it.
Meanwhile
'For the year ending September 2016, there were 1.19 million visitors, up 4 per cent from 1.14 for the previous year. Total nights spent by visitors in the state increased by 8 per cent to 10.58 million. Visitor expenditure increased by 8 per cent to $AUD 2.07 billion. The number of interstate visitors to Tasmania increased by 3 per cent to 1.01 million (was 982,000).[10] To place this in context, the total estimated population in June 2016 of Tasmania was 519,128.[11] Which means more than double the states population are tourist visitors over a year period.'
Keep the tourists locked out and you had better be enjoying your agrarian existence.
Interstate shipping?
You send to to the mainland newsprint ( that would be a dying trade ) , Reflex copy paper, frozen peas , and Simplot frozen 'fries' for Macca's. Along with a bit of fish and fruit and veg in season - and pickled onions which are very very good.
Trade south is just about everything you find in Tasmanian shops.
Enjoy your horse.
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21-12-2021, 01:02
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Re: The Reality of Living in Australia and Covid
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I didn't ask your opinion.
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And I don't really want your misinformed misinformation but we have it for all to see.
Oh, and a merry christmas to you and yours and all that may cross the path of this post.
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21-12-2021, 01:29
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Re: The Reality of Living in Australia and Covid
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Originally Posted by ahun
The plan has worked. People don't learn from history. Divide and conquer. Fear has been planted and it spread faster than plaque. People hate other people, countries against countries or states vs states. Western Australians hate Queenslanders, Tasmanians hate Victorians, Northern Territorians afraid of everyone else. Shut the borders, pull up the barb wire fences, and get the guns out.
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