18-11-2021, 06:02
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#1876
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Senior Cruiser
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: PORTUGAL
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Re: The Reality of Living in Australia and Covid
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Originally Posted by tp12
So you accept your argument is sociopathic
Lots of people died of one thing that we are trying to prevent therefore 5m others dying from another thing are inconsequential
That’s your argument? Seems pretty indicative of the ‘logic’ you’ve applied so far, anyway
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What have most people done to try and prevent hunger and famine apart from throw some change into a collection box.. the bulk of takings of which are used to pay £90k+ salaries to staff in various charities.
But hey.. it whitewashes your consciousness..
Logic is not what you are applying, your just waving 5 million emotional flags.
Logic says Covid has been benificial in many ways.. pollution of air and sea decreased massively as fear ground industry and tourism to a near halt.
No.. I am not sociopathic nor is my reasoning.. that's just another label that's thrown out there to convince yourself of your value to the planet..
Sorry.. like my value it = 0
In the grand scale of things..
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"It is better to die standing proud, than to live a lifetime on ones knees.."
Self Defence is no excuse for Genocide...
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18-11-2021, 10:29
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#1877
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Join Date: Sep 2020
Location: Channel Islands, CA
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Posts: 559
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Re: The Reality of Living in Australia and Covid
In response to the Freedom of Information Act , the FDA has asked a federal judge 55 YEARS to release data related to the Pfeizer Covid Vaccines. So the FDA makes a decision that affects almost the entire world...no shot no work, no school, no travel, lockdowns, restrict freedom of speech, meeting, religious gathering and they do not want to release any information for 55 years about how they made that decision and any data related to Pfeizer Covid Vaccine....why?
Why the secrets....and we are suppose to blindly trust both pharma and government decisions.
Abe
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18-11-2021, 11:05
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#1878
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Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Oxfordshire UK
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Re: The Reality of Living in Australia and Covid
Pretty easy to read the Patent Specification for the Phizer vaccine though. Patent Specifications are a matter of public record.
The AZ vaccine is pretty open in regard to data. I know people who were involved in its quick modification to where it is now from where they started, working on a different vaccine.
The US Company I finished my working career with supplied most of the research material required for the vaccine manufacturers.
The AZ vaccine was developed not far from where I write this, bottled and stored just a couple of miles away from where it is sent worlwide.
We are in a reasonably good place in the UK with almost 90% vaccine take up and although we have high infection rates the disease is not hospitalising or killing so many.
It is clear from the data - data freely given out here daily - that properly spaced and targeted vaccination is assisting in keeping hospitalisation and deaths down.
What is not to like?
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19-11-2021, 02:32
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#1879
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Join Date: Oct 2017
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Re: The Reality of Living in Australia and Covid
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Originally Posted by tp12
You people like to throw around the word blindly a lot. It’s quite ironic
And yes, really. Characterising public health measures as a ‘power grab’ or ‘all about control’ is immature and selfish and shows a distinct lack of understanding of the risks in a global pandemic that has killed over 5 million people. The need to position those who actually understand the risks and the public health measures as ‘fearful and brainwashed’ only sheets that home
Vaccines are our way out of this mess. You can choose not to get vaccinated, fair enough, but by eschewing your responsibility to society you’re forfeiting your privilege to be a part of it. Temporarily at least, anyway. It’s in this way that we can ensure that your decision only puts you at risk and not others, especially vulnerable people who don’t share your privilege.
But then conspiracy theory whackos will never see beyond their drivel long enough to understand that. You mention children yet it’s the under 12s who currently can’t get vaccinated, along with people who can’t get vaccinated, whom are among those at greater risk now through your choices and behaviour.
I realise this will fall on deaf ears but you need to hear it
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LOL - You need to wake up and smell the roses and actually look at the laws and mandates being put out there, rather than just believing what you are TOLD by the MSM - Wakey Wakey Time.
Its people like you that are selfish trying to force a vaccine which can have deadly consequences on fit and healthy Children who have nothing to fear from Covid, yet your own fear of mortality and paranoia to save yourself is just so great that you push it. Try looking at the stats and covid for fit and health children! Also if you have had the vaccine then you should be all good and its people like you that the unvaccinated should be worried about as you can get it and spread it without even knowing about it half the time.
Conspiracy Theory - Again look beyond MSM at what is really happening in the world, unless you are all for a system of Segregation, monitoring and control.
I realise this will fall on deaf ears but you need to hear it and you need to open your eyes.
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19-11-2021, 06:49
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#1880
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Join Date: Nov 2013
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Posts: 2,845
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Re: The Reality of Living in Australia and Covid
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Originally Posted by tp12
....I realise this will fall on deaf ears but you need to hear it
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Ain't that a bit of a paradox...
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19-11-2021, 12:26
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#1881
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Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: Pacific NW.
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Re: The Reality of Living in Australia and Covid
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Originally Posted by UFO
I realise this will fall on deaf ears but you need to hear it and you need to open your eyes.
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People who are determined to push a point of view will never listen to anything that contradicts it. Deaf ears yes, but the truth will eventually win out.
There are sheep, wolves, and border collies. We as humans have the ability to choose our role. Some use that ability to choose, others just go along.
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19-11-2021, 14:36
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#1882
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Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: on board, Australia
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Re: The Reality of Living in Australia and Covid
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Originally Posted by boatman61
The emotive figure is always thrown out there as a guilt trip to justify naked fear of one's mortality..
5 million dead.. Shock.. Horror.. but what is 5 million as a ‰ of 8 billion.. A ripple.???
That's less than died in Hitler camps and a lot less than the 70+ million who died in WW2..
Put the Black shirts away guys..
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Boatman I think you have hit the sweet spot here.
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19-11-2021, 23:17
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#1883
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Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Melbourne Australia
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Re: The Reality of Living in Australia and Covid
The Provaxxers had a rally in Melbourne today,
About 2 to 300 turned up for it,
Now the Ratbags, NeoNazis, Extreme right and any other insults you might like to throw at the Normal people of Australia.
Who actually care for Australia and Australians,
They also rallied across Australia today, Normal people against the Mandated Vaxx, Which is totally Illegal. Section 51 23A, Crimes against Humanity,
Section, 94H. Which carries Huge fines and Jail terms,
Melbourne, 450,000
Sydney, 150,000
Adelaide, 20,000
Perth, 100,000
Brisbane, 100,000
Cairns, 5000
Townsville, 1000
Yepoon, 1500,
Pauline Hanson has stated she is putting up a bill against Mandatory Vaxx,
And totally opposes the Jab,
Two Liberal Senators have also stated they wont support the Mandatory Vaxx, or the Jab,
Another Senator has also stated he wont support the Vaxx, or the Jab,
That means Morisson now doesnt have a govt,
He will either have to go to the governor and call an election or get turfed out like Whitlam did,
In Melbourne, Dan Andrews has been charged with Treason,
One of the members of parliment has or will be tabling the charges in the Victorian Parliment,
Once that has been tabled, Andrews has to stand down, untill the charges have been heard in court,
Treason is a Capitol Crime, Under Our Commonwealth Constitution, 1901, Treason is still a hanging Offence,
This Covid Crap is about to perish in a heap off Flames,
Then the prosecutions will start and these people will be charged for their crimes against Humanity,
Nurmeburg 2, Bring it on,
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20-11-2021, 00:00
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#1884
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Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: Slidell, La.
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Re: The Reality of Living in Australia and Covid
827,500 selfish, ignorant people versus 24.5 million actually 'normal' people.
High time to accept and treat them like the pariahs that they are. Globally...
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20-11-2021, 00:06
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#1885
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Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: Back in the boat in Patagonia
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Re: The Reality of Living in Australia and Covid
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Originally Posted by jimbunyard
827,500 selfish, ignorant people versus 24.5 million actually 'normal' people.
High time to accept and treat them like the pariahs that they are. Globally...
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The 450,000 in Melbourne is a non sense.
From this arvo's 'Age'
'Earlier, a number of prominent voices in the anti-lockdown movement spoke to protesters, as flags touting Donald Trump and far-right American website Infowars were flown in the crowd.
Blogger Topher Field was among those who spoke to the crowd at Flagstaff Gardens.
Mr Field said the group had sent a message to the parliament crossbenchers: “don’t take us for fools”.
He claimed the crowd at the park had reached 450,000 despite a much smaller number of people attending.'
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20-11-2021, 00:23
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#1886
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Join Date: Jun 2016
Location: Australia
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Re: The Reality of Living in Australia and Covid
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Originally Posted by El Pinguino
'Earlier, a number of prominent voices in the anti-lockdown movement spoke to protesters, as flags touting Donald Trump and far-right American website Infowars were flown in the crowd.
Blogger Topher Field was among those who spoke to the crowd at Flagstaff Gardens.
Mr Field said the group had sent a message to the parliament crossbenchers: “don’t take us for fools”.
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How could you not?
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20-11-2021, 00:34
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#1887
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Re: The Reality of Living in Australia and Covid
'Topher Field'
People need to understand that in Australia 'ph' is pronounced 'ss' except in the word 'phuckwit' where it is 'f'.
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20-11-2021, 02:38
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#1888
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Senior Cruiser
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Thunder Bay, Ontario - 48-29N x 89-20W
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Re: The Reality of Living in Australia and Covid
Thousands take to Australia streets over COVID-19 measures, jabs
Thousands demonstrate for and against vaccine mandates in a country with one of the world’s highest inoculation rates.
Much more reporting ➥ https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2021/...-measures-jabs
How accurately, do you Australians think, this Al Jazeera reporting portrays the situation?
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20-11-2021, 02:45
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#1889
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Location: Back in the boat in Patagonia
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Re: The Reality of Living in Australia and Covid
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Originally Posted by GordMay
Thousands take to Australia streets over COVID-19 measures, jabs
Thousands demonstrate for and against vaccine mandates in a country with one of the world’s highest inoculation rates.
Much more reporting ➥ https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2021/...-measures-jabs
How accurately, do you Australians think, this Al Jazeera reporting portrays the situation?
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I don't always agree with Al Jazeera but that seems a pretty good view of the current situation.
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20-11-2021, 03:45
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#1890
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Senior Cruiser
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: PORTUGAL
Posts: 31,079
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Re: The Reality of Living in Australia and Covid
Quote:
Originally Posted by GordMay
Thousands take to Australia streets over COVID-19 measures, jabs
Thousands demonstrate for and against vaccine mandates in a country with one of the world’s highest inoculation rates.
Much more reporting ➥ https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2021/...-measures-jabs
How accurately, do you Australians think, this Al Jazeera reporting portrays the situation?
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More honestly than CNN..
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You can't oppress a people for over 75 years and have them say.. "I Love You.. ".
"It is better to die standing proud, than to live a lifetime on ones knees.."
Self Defence is no excuse for Genocide...
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