11-10-2021, 23:06
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Location: On the boat, somewhere in Australia.
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Re: The Reality of Living in Australia and Covid
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Originally Posted by chrisr
some more from the real world...
the loosening of covid restrictions in nsw has actually meant TIGHTER restrictions up here in regional nsw, as the whole state becomes aligned with sydney
eg our favourite coffee shop here now only does take-away...if they stayed as a cafe they would need to check all customers jabs and they just cannot be bothered
cheers,
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I do feel for them, and I’d say it’s not they cannot be bothered, after all, most of these guys are far from lazy to have succeeded in the cafe business. (Ex catering and hospitality worker here, still got the scars.)
I think their real dilemma is to do with the demographic of coastal NSW in particular, though the problem is endemic throughout Australia to some degree.
This puts them in the situation of “policing” their customers, who I will bet are a bit over-represented in the anti-vax, anti-authority percentages compared most bits of Australia. The NSW coast is, or was, after all, the Mecca of the alternative-lifestyle group for decades.
I suspect they’ve taken the pragmatic decision to not alienate a significant portion of their customer base and wait until they are no longer the meat in the sandwich. If so, I support them in their thinking.
Incidentally, my son has just finished up working in retail during his gap year to head off to Duntroon. I am quite confident that he will experience less toxic nastiness at Duntroon or on most battlefields than he has had to manage working at a suburban Spotlight store in Adelaide. I am NOT being ironic, what he has put up with this last year defies description.
My sympathies to your local cafe, I hope things improve for them soon.
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11-10-2021, 23:39
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#1487
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Location: Back in the boat in Patagonia
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Re: The Reality of Living in Australia and Covid
How about some sympathy for old pharts trying to link up their covid vax certs - on their Medicare / Mygov accounts - with their Service NSW/Vic QR code reader thingamabobs on their phones.
Its kept me out of mischief for much of today.
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11-10-2021, 23:53
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#1488
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Join Date: May 2010
Location: Sydney Australia
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Re: The Reality of Living in Australia and Covid
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Originally Posted by Thumbs Up
You also don't have Delta yet.
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This really showcases your depth of knowledge on this topic, and leads one to assumptions on your knowledge of other topics.
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12-10-2021, 00:21
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#1489
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Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: Gympie
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Re: The Reality of Living in Australia and Covid
Ping don't get me started on that myGov website BS. Last time I tried to use it the wife and I couldn't have the same email address. We have only been sharing our email address for 20 years. We have no interest in having two email accounts. One of my clients ended up at Centrelink having his hand held until it was all sorted.
Uncle Bob I find World News Daily Report the best source for unbiased Covid news.
Cheers
https://worldnewsdailyreport.com/who...ment-facility/
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12-10-2021, 02:17
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#1490
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Location: Australia
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Re: The Reality of Living in Australia and Covid
The COVIDSafe app was a much better idea.
Developed a little more one could have mounted a mobile on the doors with one of those beam interrupted devices so that it flashed a light or sounded a beep if someone walked in without a phone which did not respond. Getting flashed or beeped a few times would encourage the recalcitrants to mend their evil ways.
The only systems that ever work well are those which run down hill.
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12-10-2021, 02:43
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#1491
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Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: Moreton Bay
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Re: The Reality of Living in Australia and Covid
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Originally Posted by Fore and Aft
Ping don't get me started on that myGov website BS. Last time I tried to use it the wife and I couldn't have the same email address. We have only been sharing our email address for 20 years. We have no interest in having two email accounts. One of my clients ended up at Centrelink having his hand held until it was all sorted.
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Snap! I developed deep hatred for MyGov.
'Reckon the developers are sociopaths incapable of sustaining a relationship with any live human. They're prolly in love with HTML and whatever. And they might have sat in a psychology class. But for no good effect.
They do state that up front. My.gov.au does describe itself as 'a simple and secure way to access online government services'. See? They left out the subject of the sentence. They didn't say 'a simple and secure way for you to access online government services' or 'a simple and secure way for all Aussies to access online government services'.
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Originally Posted by Fore and Aft
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Nah, I reckon you've given Uncle Bob a bum steer there. One, I reckon that website has bad intentions. Two, stories like that smell a bit too much of white pfella racism for me.
Yer get fair dinkum info and proper news from the blokes at the Betoota Advocate.
https://www.betootaadvocate.com/unca...hard-and-fast/
https://www.betootaadvocate.com/ente...-opening-pubs/
https://www.betootaadvocate.com/advo...n-was-easy-as/
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12-10-2021, 03:22
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#1492
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Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: South of 43 S, Australia
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Re: The Reality of Living in Australia and Covid
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Originally Posted by Alan Mighty
Of course it's related to cruising, Wotname. You just needed to point out the relevancy.
In this case, many of us have glass in our portlights and deadlights. That glass is subject to the same problem - micro-scale pitting caused by chemicals in salt spray, deck wash-down, etc.
My solution (for the portlights, not the shower screens - since I have no shower screen around the shower on Led Myne) is carnauba wax. Carnauba wax can be found at most auto parts stores, on the shelves around waxes and washes for cars.
Carnauba wax (and for that matter goanna salve, goanna liniment) is vegan (in the sense that not many animals died directly in its production. I don't think the smell of a goanna or perentie has been near 'goanna' products since WW2 or earlier (the ingredients list includes: Methyl Salicylate 4.2% w/w, Turpentine Oil 4.2% w/w, Eucalyptus Oil 2.5% w/w, Camphor 0.83% w/w, Peppermint Oil 0.42%, Pine Oil Pumilio 2.5% w/w, Menthol 0.17% - that leaves a lot of room for other muck of course).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carnauba_wax
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Ahh... I see it clearly now
So it's turtle wax v goanna oil - sorta like surf and turf I suppose!
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12-10-2021, 03:42
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#1493
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Re: The Reality of Living in Australia and Covid
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Originally Posted by El Pinguino
How about some sympathy for old pharts trying to link up their covid vax certs - on their Medicare / Mygov accounts - with their Service NSW/Vic QR code reader thingamabobs on their phones.
Its kept me out of mischief for much of today.
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It took myself several attempts, to get access to medicare, and linking that to 'mygov', just did not work and took me many hours, and phone intervention.
Here is some information: https://www.health.gov.au/initiative...s/certificates
I am now taking others through the process, and I find the easiest way, is to make phonecall. The simple statement you have to make is "I do not have a smartphone or computer to get it digitally, could I have a paper/hard copy please". Number to call is 1800 653 809.
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12-10-2021, 03:54
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#1494
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Re: The Reality of Living in Australia and Covid
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Originally Posted by Wotname
So it's turtle wax
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Yair, carnauba wax is the ticket.
Usually cheaper at an auto parts store than any marine chandlery.
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12-10-2021, 15:36
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Re: The Reality of Living in Australia and Covid
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Originally Posted by El Pinguino
How about some sympathy for old pharts trying to link up their covid vax certs - on their Medicare / Mygov accounts - with their Service NSW/Vic QR code reader thingamabobs on their phones.
Its kept me out of mischief for much of today.
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A woman friend of ours got an app called "Wallet". Then she dropped all her vaccination info into the "wallet", and a click on it brings it up so that anyone can read it. Quicker for her than using QR check ins at businesses.
Just another way.
Ann
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12-10-2021, 16:11
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Re: The Reality of Living in Australia and Covid
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Originally Posted by JPA Cate
A woman friend of ours got an app called "Wallet". Then she dropped all her vaccination info into the "wallet", and a click on it brings it up so that anyone can read it. Quicker for her than using QR check ins at businesses.
Just another way.
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Wallet is so very yesterday.
The powers that be want it to come up automatically after you do your QR thingo and have it with disco lights, holograms and all sorts of stuff.
The Vic one only took a morning to set up ..... I am putting aside thursday and friday for the NSW one.
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12-10-2021, 16:46
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Re: The Reality of Living in Australia and Covid
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Originally Posted by El Pinguino
Wallet is so very yesterday.
The powers that be want it to come up automatically after you do your QR thingo and have it with disco lights, holograms and all sorts of stuff.
The Vic one only took a morning to set up ..... I am putting aside thursday and friday for the NSW one.
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OK, I admit I'm not up to speed with today's tooings and froings in Covid Country; is anyone making use of the National Covidsafe app. The one that cost a shipload last year and was a fizzer; has it been resurrected by a miracle from the Happy Clapper?
If not, maybe it needs a colour coded software revision and perhaps some pork fat massaged into the coding.
BTW, thanks to jelkins for the heads up on the shovel, good morning reading as I mull over the big questions of the day - like " how is it that no turtles are harmed when making turtle wax yet goanna oil knocks off the poor buggas" or "I s pork barrelling good for the piggies or for the punters"?
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12-10-2021, 17:38
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Re: The Reality of Living in Australia and Covid
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Originally Posted by Wotname
OK, I admit I'm not up to speed with today's tooings and froings in Covid Country; is anyone making use of the National Covidsafe app. The one that cost a shipload last year and was a fizzer; has it been resurrected by a miracle from the Happy Clapper?
If[/I]" or "Is pork barrelling good for the piggies or for the punters"?
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The national CovidSafe app still exists, but as you say, not really used anymore.
https://www.health.gov.au/resources/.../covidsafe-app
It works on a proximity principle with bluetooth. It has been reported that not even one positive case has been found with this app.
It seems that this app has been replaced by the check-in QR codes each state has, and of course each state has their own,
The money that has been wasted in this whole covid thing, (picture me, shaking my head in disbelief), each state inventing their own wheels. And after a year and a half, we have lots of wheels, but not many are perfectly round, and lots of wheels are of a different size.
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12-10-2021, 17:41
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Location: Sydney Australia
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Re: The Reality of Living in Australia and Covid
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Originally Posted by HankOnthewater
The national CovidSafe app still exists, but as you say, not really used anymore.
https://www.health.gov.au/resources/.../covidsafe-app
It works on a proximity principle with bluetooth. It has been reported that not even one positive case has been found with this app.
It seems that this app has been replaced by the check-in QR codes each state has, and of course each state has their own,
The money that has been wasted in this whole covid thing, (picture me, shaking my head in disbelief), each state inventing their own wheels. And after a year and a half, we have lots of wheels, but not many are perfectly round, and lots of wheels are of a different size.
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I guess that makes it wheely, wheely bad.
OK, I'll show myself out now.
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