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Old 18-03-2020, 14:47   #1
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Re: New forum for Covid-19 Topics - README

Hopefully China has reached steady state (knock on wood).

Some numbers as of 3/19/20
Total deaths 3,245
Total cases 80,928
Active cases 7,263
Naive mortality rate 4.00%
Academic mortality rate 4.41%

For those still insisting there are underreported/unreported cases, there would need to be 3x81k more cases that also survived for the mortality rate to drop to 1% ie a total of 323k cases in China.
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Can anyone help us understand the differences between “naive” and “academic" case fatality rates (CFR)?
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a question ; is anybody aware of ANYBODY, ANYWHERE in the world, dying of corvin19 who was not already in a high risk group ie with impaired immune system, co-morbidity, chronic illnesses etc etc

i believe the answer is NO, however will be happy to be corrected

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a question ; is anybody aware of ANYBODY, ANYWHERE in the world, dying of corvin19 who was not already in a high risk group ie with impaired immune system, co-morbidity, chronic illnesses etc etc

i believe the answer is NO, however will be happy to be corrected

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I have damage to my lungs from epoxy and air pollution combining to injure them.

Do I deserve to die because I have injured lungs?

You make it sound like it's no big deal if "those people" die from it. Well, here I am to hopefully help your humanity by putting a face on an at risk person who would have a high likelihood of dying from it.
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Can anyone help us understand the differences between “naive” and “academic" case fatality rates (CFR)?

Naive rate
=Deaths/Total cases

Academic (or how epidemiologists look at it in the early stages of an epidemic)
=Deaths/(Total cases-active cases)

The two numbers converge when steady state is reached or when all active cases are discharged.
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a question ; is anybody aware of ANYBODY, ANYWHERE in the world, dying of corvin19 who was not already in a high risk group ie with impaired immune system, co-morbidity, chronic illnesses etc etc

i believe the answer is NO, however will be happy to be corrected

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Yes, the now famous Li Wenliang died relatively young leaving behind his pregnant wife.

There are many deaths in all age groups. Percentages always are higher for already compromised individuals. So what? Same things happens with influenza and other communicable diseases. Not only are there more deaths with Covid-19 than with influenza there are also many survivors with life altering after effects. Lungs are damaged permanently in many individuals that do not die.

People are dying in isolation wards alone and afraid. For many even a proper funeral is not possible due to threat of community spread. These are very serious times and we should take no comfort in the fact this disease attacks the weak and elderly more viciously than the young and healthy.

This is a serious disease and we all need to act responsibly to reduce the rate of infection. Even people who do not contract the disease are going to be severely affected emotionally and economically. There is not a person alive that will not remember this event for the rest of their lives.
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a question ; is anybody aware of ANYBODY, ANYWHERE in the world, dying of corvin19 who was not already in a high risk group ie with impaired immune system, co-morbidity, chronic illnesses etc etc

i believe the answer is NO, however will be happy to be corrected

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I get what you are saying--but oddly enough, just read a report from the CDC that says that a large portion of those hospitalized are in the 20-40 age bracket. But those over 80 are the ones that are dying--this is a HUGE drain on our medical system--which is part of the problem with this virus. https://apple.news/AFOl6uXuiSvu7FEMZxaqMaw
Cancer surgeries are being delayed, because there are no resources to deal with this and THAT--so its more than just this disease that is the problem--its all the trickle down effects of it.
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