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Old 02-03-2020, 10:56   #31
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The more we learn about this the more it appears to kill only weak, sick older people. Even the flu kills more kids. We are all going to catch it, and the vaccine will probably be included in next years flu shot. Many people are not even showing symptoms but testing positive. The media is sure making money off of the hysteria.
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important info for vessels leaving and entering st martin nederland anttilies/FWI

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The more we learn about this the more it appears to kill only weak, sick older people. Even the flu kills more kids. We are all going to catch it, and the vaccine will probably be included in next years flu shot. Many people are not even showing symptoms but testing positive. The media is sure making money off of the hysteria.
I always hear this but how are they making money? Are you saying that newspapers are selling more advertising or that the TV news raised their ad rates? Otherwise how do they make more money from this?

The release of next years common flu shot is less than a year away: sometime in the fall. Nobody thinks there will be a vaccine ready for widespread release that quickly, at best several will have completed animal testing and be in human trials. After that the best one will be selected and then they have to manufacture hundreds of millions of doses which does not happen overnight. Hopefully they will be distributed for the fall of 2021 flu season.

BTW, those who don’t show symptoms but still test positive can still be contagious, can still be infectious.
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Link to the Caribbean Public Health Agency [CARPHA] website wherein they regularly post Situation Reports regarding the 2019-novel coronavirus (2019-nCoV).

CARPHA > Novel Coronavirus
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Thanks for starting this valuable thread. A lot of people are leaving or have left Georgetown Exumas this week and they are heading to places in the caribbean. They need to know what to expect when they arrive.
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I always hear this but how are they making money? Are you saying that newspapers are selling more advertising or that the TV news raised their ad rates? Otherwise how do they make more money from this?

The release of next years common flu shot is less than a year away: sometime in the fall. Nobody thinks there will be a vaccine ready for widespread release that quickly, at best several will have completed animal testing and be in human trials. After that the best one will be selected and then they have to manufacture hundreds of millions of doses which does not happen overnight. Hopefully they will be distributed for the fall of 2021 flu season.

BTW, those who don’t show symptoms but still test positive can still be contagious, can still be infectious.

Please as much as we value your comments,could posters try to keep posts for factual evidence based reports,with links to the source rather than opinions.
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WHO Director-General's opening remarks at the media briefing on COVID-19 - 2 March 2020

https://www.who.int/dg/speeches/deta...--2-march-2020

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~We are in unchartered territory. We have never before seen a respiratory pathogen that is capable of community transmission, but which can also be contained with the right measures.

If this was an influenza epidemic, we would have expected to see widespread community transmission across the globe by now, and efforts to slow it down or contain it would not be feasible.

But containment of COVID-19 is feasible and must remain the top priority for all countries.~
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Slight change to Maldives entrance requirements for cruisers. From local agent:
Regarding Corona virus, Please fill the attached 3 forms and send back to me before the arrival.
Note that each crew has to fill a separate Health card. It's like a landing card for each crew.
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Information for the public on the outbreak of coronavirus, including the current situation in the UK and information about the virus and its symptoms.

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/coronavi...ernment-action
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Link to the Caribbean Public Health Agency [CARPHA] website wherein they regularly post Situation Reports regarding the 2019-novel coronavirus (2019-nCoV).

CARPHA > Novel Coronavirus
just reading the small print from the link and noted

As per the WHO recommendations9, CARPHA does NOT recommend travel bans for any vessels arriving at any ports in MEMBER States, but instead encourage port authorities to be in a state of readiness to respond to any imported cases.

{comment -this is good news for cruisers!,lets hope it remains that way)

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Slight change to Maldives entrance requirements for cruisers. From local agent:
Regarding Corona virus, Please fill the attached 3 forms and send back to me before the arrival.
Note that each crew has to fill a separate Health card. It's like a landing card for each crew.
thank you paul,is there a link to the Maldives info ?
there is no link for the Maldives in the noonsite link page

https://www.noonsite.com/news/novel-...try-worldwide/
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the best discourse I have seen so far on the virus from the independent investigation team who returned from china on the 25 feb if you have any doubts about how serious we should view the spread

here is the published report from WHO from the china teams findings relating to the video above

https://www.who.int/docs/default-sou...nal-report.pdf

extract from text of document, on WHO action plan below

For countries with imported cases and/or outbreaks of COVID-19

1. Immediately activate the highest level of national Response Management protocols to ensure the all-of-government and all-of-society approach needed to contain COVID-19 with non-pharmaceutical public health measures;

2. Prioritize active, exhaustive case finding and immediate testing and isolation, painstaking contact tracing and rigorous quarantine of close contacts;

3. Fully educate the general public on the seriousness of COVID-19 and their role in preventing its spread;

4. Immediately expand surveillance to detect COVID-19 transmission chains, by testing all patients with atypical pneumonias, conducting screening in some patients with upper respiratory illnesses and/or recent COVID-19 exposure, and adding testing for the COVID-19 virus to existing surveillance systems (e.g. systems for influenza-like-illness and SARI); and

5. Conduct multi-sector scenario planning and simulations for the deployment of even more stringent measures to interrupt transmission chains as needed (e.g. the suspension of large-scale gatherings and the closure of schools and workplaces).

For uninfected countries

1. Prepare to immediately activate the highest level of emergency response mechanisms to trigger the all-of-government and all-of society approach that is essential for early containment of a COVID-19 outbreak;

2. Rapidly test national preparedness plans in light of new knowledge on the effectiveness of non-pharmaceutical measures against COVID-19; incorporate rapid detection, largescale case isolation and respiratory support capacities, and rigorous contact tracing and management in national COVID-19 readiness and response plans and capacities;

3. Immediately enhance surveillance for COVID-19 as rapid detection is crucial to containing spread; consider testing all patients with atypical pneumonia for the COVID-19 virus, and adding testing for the virus to existing influenza surveillance systems;

4. Begin now to enforce rigorous application of infection prevention and control measures in all healthcare facilities, especially in emergency departments and outpatient clinics, as this is where COVID-19 will enter the health system; and

5. Rapidly assess the general population’s understanding of COVID-19, adjust national health promotion materials and activities accordingly, and engage clinical champions to communicate with the media.

For the public

1. Recognize that COVID-19 is a new and concerning disease, but that outbreaks can managed with the right response and that the vast majority of infected people will recover;

2. Begin now to adopt and rigorously practice the most important preventive measures for COVID-19 by frequent hand washing and always covering your mouth and nose when sneezing or coughing;

3. Continually update yourself on COVID-19 and its signs and symptoms (i.e. fever and dry cough), because the strategies and response activities will constantly improve as new information on this disease is accumulating every day; and

4. Be prepared to actively support a response to COVID-19 in a variety of ways, including the adoption of more stringent ‘social distancing’ practices and helping the high-risk elderly population.
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thank you paul,is there a link to the Maldives info ?
there is no link for the Maldives in the noonsite link page

https://www.noonsite.com/news/novel-...try-worldwide/
http://www.health.gov.mv/Uploads/Dow...tions(274).pdf

MINISTRY OF HEALTH

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here is the published report from WHO from the china teams findings relating to the video above

1. Immediately activate the highest level of national Response Management protocols to ensure the all-of-government and all-of-society approach needed to contain COVID-19 with non-pharmaceutical public health measures;
5. Conduct multi-sector scenario planning and simulations for the deployment of even more stringent measures to interrupt transmission chains as needed (e.g. the suspension of large-scale gatherings and the closure of schools and workplaces).
Thank you for the focused posts.
I don't mean to cloud your thread, but I'd like to highlight something from a former insider's perspective. As "common sense" as the two points above are, they represent an absolute departure from the wait-and-see paradigm that WHO and US CDC has traditionally held under the circumstances, which generally has been "there's little evidence for drastic measures, they are disruptive, therefor we won't do them." And frankly, in the US at least, we have no preparation to respond as China did.

Someday the public will be outraged about this, and textbooks will need to be re-written, but note Dr. Aylward's comments in the video starting at 23:37 where he references the paradigm shift https://youtu.be/-o0q1XMRKYM?t=1417

"When you start doing all of this [pointing at comprehensive lock-down measures], which are the interventions, then you can, ideally change the shape of that [the ordinary outbreak curve] and that's what China has actually done to my surprise. It was one of those things when you spend 20-30 years in this business...it's like seriously? Your going to change that [outbreak curve] with those tactics? And yes, it was successful, or it is being successful." [Bold my emphasis]
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Thank you for the focused posts.
I don't mean to cloud your thread, but I'd like to highlight something from a former insider's perspective. As "common sense" as the two points above are, they represent an absolute departure from the wait-and-see paradigm that WHO and US CDC has traditionally held under the circumstances, which generally has been "there's little evidence for drastic measures, they are disruptive, therefor we won't do them." And frankly, in the US at least, we have no preparation to respond as China did.

Someday the public will be outraged about this, and textbooks will need to be re-written, but note Dr. Aylward's comments in the video starting at 23:37 where he references the paradigm shift https://youtu.be/-o0q1XMRKYM?t=1417

"When you start doing all of this [pointing at comprehensive lock-down measures], which are the interventions, then you can, ideally change the shape of that [the ordinary outbreak curve] and that's what China has actually done to my surprise. It was one of those things when you spend 20-30 years in this business...it's like seriously? Your going to change that [outbreak curve] with those tactics? And yes, it was successful, or it is being successful." [Bold my emphasis]
thank you for your interesting insight,indeed these are strange times we live in,and you are not the first health professional who has contacted me with more questions than answers about this current event.

however I have little to offer regarding motives or modus operandi,other than some experience with shelterbox.co.uk disaster relief as a fund raiser.

searching for ,collating, adding relevant reports for the use of the forum and acting as a conduit for information relevant to cruisers is the prime concern of this thread.

if commenting I would appreciate if posters could limit this to factual reports,alerts etc with sources and links.

the thread is located as a sticky on the EMERGENCY ,DISASTER AND DISTRESS notice board,so there is no need to bump it.

it is also listed as a link on the https://www.noonsite.com/news/novel-...try-worldwide/
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