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Old 17-04-2020, 09:12   #1
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Are we all getting heavily censored because of Chinese influence over covid 19?

Hi that's Facebook and this forum now where I have found any discussion about Covid 19 source either abruptly ended, labeled as fake news or completely deleted!
Wanted to comment on the Epoch Times Source of the pandemic video post on this forum only to find it finished. I have watched the video and was intrigued enough to research what I could myself.
And after just a few days research was 100% certain the Wuhan Covid 19 outbreak source was indeed the viral research laboratory and not the wet market.
Whether Covid 19 was the result of laboratory manipulation or just a naturally occurring strain of which a sample was brought back to the lab I have been unable to convince myself either way on so far and is far more complicated an issue.
There are many factors which have convinced so totally that the source of the outbreak in Wuhan was the lab and not the wet market, all of which I have found on the internet independently of the video myself.
For a start the Corona Virus Research Laboratory in Wuhan is the only one in the country. A country of 1.3 Billion people in 65 large cities and many Provinces.
The known host of the virus a bat variety does not live anywhere near Wuhan but in different Provinces many hundreds of miles South of Wuhan.
The head research scientist into Bat Corona viruses at the lab Shi Zhengli has spent most of the last 16 years continually retrieving samples from bats from the southern provinces in search of corona viruses similar to SARS. And they have not been easy to find, initially she talks about visiting upto 30 caves a week and not finding a single bat infected with a similar strain. However they managed to streamline their search areas by looking for antibodies to the viruses which remain in the bats (and people, yes they also checked local people populations and found anti bodies to corona viruses) much longer than the virus and enabling them to target areas, once again none were anywhere near Wuhan.
If a natural outbreak of Covid 19 was to occur it would almost definitely be rural (just like SARS and swine fever were) and the source would be near where the bats exist not in a city hundreds of miles north!

As it is, as the CCP are telling the story Shi Zhengli wasted all those years on expeditions heading hundreds of miles south to collect samples, all she had to do was stay in her lab in Wuhan and the perfect strain she was after would have come straight to her.
If the outbreak of Covid 19 came from that Wet Market and not the Lab my cocks a kipper! And you can hold me to that.

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Hi that's Facebook and this forum now where I have found any discussion about Covid 19 source either abruptly ended, labeled as fake news or completely deleted!
Wanted to comment on the Epoch Times Source of the pandemic video post on this forum only to find it finished. I have watched the video and was intrigued enough to research what I could myself.
And after just a few days research was 100% certain the Wuhan Covid 19 outbreak source was indeed the viral research laboratory and not the wet market.
Whether Covid 19 was the result of laboratory manipulation or just a naturally occurring strain of which a sample was brought back to the lab I have been unable to convince myself either way on so far and is far more complicated an issue.
There are many factors which have convinced so totally that the source of the outbreak in Wuhan was the lab and not the wet market, all of which I have found on the internet independently of the video myself.
For a start the Corona Virus Research Laboratory in Wuhan is the only one in the country. A country of 1.3 Billion people in 65 large cities and many Provinces.
The known host of the virus a bat variety does not live anywhere near Wuhan but in different Provinces many hundreds of miles South of Wuhan.
The head research scientist into Bat Corona viruses at the lab Shi Zhengli has spent most of the last 16 years continually retrieving samples from bats from the southern provinces in search of corona viruses similar to SARS. And they have not been easy to find, initially she talks about visiting upto 30 caves a week and not finding a single bat infected with a similar strain. However they managed to streamline their search areas by looking for antibodies to the viruses which remain in the bats (and people, yes they also checked local people populations and found anti bodies to corona viruses) much longer than the virus and enabling them to target areas, once again none were anywhere near Wuhan.
If a natural outbreak of Covid 19 was to occur it would almost definitely be rural (just like SARS and swine fever were) and the source would be near where the bats exist not in a city hundreds of miles north!

As it is, as the CCP are telling the story Shi Zhengli wasted all those years on expeditions heading hundreds of miles south to collect samples, all she had to do was stay in her lab in Wuhan and the perfect strain she was after would have come straight to her.
If the outbreak of Covid 19 came from that Wet Market and not the Lab my cocks a kipper! And you can hold me to that.

Happy To Play Devils Advocate On This One

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The virus originated in a city , not the countryside

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I expect we'll get actual evidence of what happened at some point.


Not sure it will come from the Chinese government.
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From what source????
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From what source????
The first reported cases were in a city , not the country side

Bats donít live in the city
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Hi that's Facebook and this forum now where I have found any discussion about Covid 19 source either abruptly ended, labeled as fake news or completely deleted!
Honestly, is that "lab" story actually important right now? Our house is on fire, and you want to argue about whether it was started by a bad outlet or arson.

Knowing exactly where it came from is not going to change the course of the pandemic. At this moment, that question is an unimportant distraction, and an unwelcome international point of friction, when we need all hands on deck.
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Honestly, is that "lab" story actually important right now? Our house is on fire, and you want to argue about whether it was started by a bad outlet or arson.

Knowing exactly where it came from is not going to change the course of the pandemic. At this moment, that question is an unimportant distraction, and an unwelcome international point of friction, when we need all hands on deck.

^^ This. Very interesting, but we should not let it distract us.
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Honestly, is that "lab" story actually important right now? Our house is on fire, and you want to argue about whether it was started by a bad outlet or arson.

Knowing exactly where it came from is not going to change the course of the pandemic. At this moment, that question is an unimportant distraction, and an unwelcome international point of friction, when we need all hands on deck.

Yes, it is important

All Information from China concerning corona is important

The role of the WHO is also important and needs to be closely examined

In the end millions of people worldwide will die

Countries will collapse
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This escaped from a lab or was intentionally released. Either way the Chinese government is at fault and they covered it up with the help of the WHO and the UN which caused much greater spread and damage.

If you think this came from Bat soup, you probably also believe that Epstien killed himself in jail.
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Indeed. Let’s not miss any opportunity to vilify China, the WHO, the UN, the Deep State, the Fake News, or any other perceived bad actors.
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