So here we go, first post and it's about changing our house batteries from Lead
AGM over to
LiFePO4.
Why did we go Li? Fact is, Li makes economic sense, right here and now.
We are replacing 2 x 260Ah quality
AGM batteries, which in theory give a safe long life usable capacity of about 210 Ah, assuming you can get them charged to 90% capacity and then drain them to 50% capacity (12.2V). Bear in mind you generally can't get the last 10 - 15% of charge into a lead battery easily, it takes hours of absorbtion time, easy on a shore charger, but not gonna happen at sea, unless you have massive solar or love listening to engines running (I'm talking about our sailing catamran here, I don't want to hear engines running!).
1 x 300 Ah Li battery gives around 210 Ah of very conservative usage, based on 100% - 30% capacity discharge. The great thing about Li is that they have over 95% charge efficiency. So nearly all of the power you present to them, they absorb, right up to basically full charge. So you have every chance of quickly (generator) or efficiently (wind/solar) getting charge into a Li battery. Lead on the other hand, well figure on more like 85% charge efficiency when new and getting worse all the time as it ages.
So, bottom line?
A$1400 for 2x 260Ah quality AGM battries (SSB) - will last maybe several hundred cycles if looked after and get worse from day one.
A$2200 for 4x3.2V Winston 300Ah cells. - Will last 2000 plus cycles and give full performance essentially if looked after.
So, it makes simple economic sense to go Li, not to mention all the other benfits you get.
Then after
purchasing the batteries, I learnt about the elephant in the room! To get the super long and happy (plus safe) life out of Li, you have to completely reprogram (where able) or change to programmable battery charge/discharge management. Thanks to information here and elsewhere I've been on a steep
learning curve!
With great power comes great responsibility I guess.
Had the Li only a few weeks and only in
dock testing so far, but got it pretty close to where I think it should be. It's off for a few days trip with one of the other owners as of today, so should get some real-world feedback shortly.
Plan is not to push them too hard, but to use them well withing limits, like sailing really. Sure, you can run full
sails and sheet them in hard in 20kn plus
wind and reach the
hull speed of the yacht. Or you can take in a reef or two and still go at 95% of
hull speed without stressing the
gear and rig. What would you do?
So our
boat is a
Seawind 1160 with more options than you can poke a stick at. But electrically it has two fridges and a double
freezer. Normal sailing electrics,
AIS transmitter,
radar etc plus
electric windlass and main
halyard. All these things don't have to be on, except perhaps for one fridge and the sailing nav
instruments. It also has a 3000W
Victron inverter/charger unit and many 240V ac powerpoints, so you can go pretty hard with big current draws if you are not paying attention.
Charging options are via the 240V AC input to the
Victron 12/3000/120 unit. It can charge at 120A if you let it, though I'm limiting it to 90A for now. Either
shore power or the
Honda 2kW portable genny power that up.
250W solar. 350W
wind generator. And of course each
diesel has an 80A Hitachi dumb
alternator.
So there are many ways to kill a battery under uncontrolled discharge or charge!
So far as I can
work out, a
LiFePO4 battery really only cares about two things. When charging, keep voltage conservative. 13.8V will fill it up, so no need to go above 14V. When charged full, stop charging. Don't let it float at 13.8V or whatever like a normal Lead battery. They don't like it long term. When discharging, try to keep it around 70-80% discharged, though there are published tests under controlled conditions of 2000 cycles life at 100% discharge. Note the controlled conditions caveat there! Sure there are other things to consider like too hot or too cold issues, but they're not so much of an issue in
Australia on the
water if you keep the thing out of the
engine bay. It's located on the bridgedeck under the main
saloon, so should be happy there.
So, luckily for me the Victron is very progarmmable now I have the adaptor to let it talk to the configure program on my computer, though I should update the firmware in it to give the a tiny bit more control. Presently it only lets me specify absorbtion based on time, not tailing current. So I've set it to charge at 90A continuous up to 13.8V (bulk) and then hold 13.8V for an hour under diminishing current until it's basically full. Last test I did it got down to 16A charge at the end of 1 hour when it finished the fixed absorbtion time. That was about 98% full according to BEP battery
monitor, so will leave it at that for now and be a little conservative. Then let it discharge down to 13.0V for 'float' mode. This will hold it at a mid point state of charge, while left in
dock with fridges/freezers running in summer time so it's ready to go out with just an hour or two of 90A charge again to top it up. If just out for a day sail no need to charge up before going I think.
Dingo 20A solar controller has a custom program setting that is also fully controllable, so lucky there as well. Been set similarly, not that it will get up battery fully charged every day.
Wind generator controller is a bit harder to deal with, needs to be customised as not programmable and wants to get batteries up to 14.2 - 14.4 V, like any normal Lead acid battery charger. Because it can deliver 30A at 24Knots and upward wind speed, that's a real possibility if on a windy
mooring.
Alternators are dumb, not smart battery charger or adjustable regulators. Deliver about 100A when both diesels running at around 1500
RPM, which is good. If they tried to put out 80A each they would burn themselves out after a while, and that's a real risk with Li batteries. They get warm in the first couple of minutes coming off a 25% SOC battery, but amps settle down to around 50A each pretty quckly, so looks like won't need to special regulators or battery chargers etc, though I know this is not optimal. The diesels charge into the starter battery (lead acid) first, then into the Li house bank if you want.
Charging on a
mooring at sea, first option is to use the
Honda 2kW
generator and let the Victron charger sort it all out quickly and efficiently.
So, for now I've programmed the battery
monitor unit to have a high and low voltage alarm, which I've hooked into an obnoxious external buzzer from Jaycar ($4!). This will go off as soon as battery goes above 13.9V or below 12.8V. Starter battery circuit will only be connected to the house battery circuit when manually switched over, not automatically like was previously the case using a Voltage Sensitive Relay. Though I may
purchase a specially designed VSR intended to connect Li to lead starter batteries should the other owners not like manual intervention. Will see how it goes on the first few days away from dock I guess. Thanks to the power of ebay i have a programmable voltage switch for $18 that allows me to automatically control the external input of a VSR at my chosen voltage settings. So for under $150 can have an automated connection/disconnection of house battery from starter battery, allowing for automated charging whenever engines are running. Not too difficult, but may not be necessary after a bit of trial at sea.
In addition there are some automated last lines of defence. A victron BP-100 unit has been installed to prevent house battery bus bar loads going below 12V, which is about 95% discharged, but won't hurt the battery if it happens every now and then. Also, the victron
inverter has a programmable cut-off voltage, which I've programmed to 12.65V for now, to give you a bit of time to turn off
appliances should you hear the low battery buzzer annoy you.
Wind
generator (Superwind 350) uses a special switch and dump load resisitors, so not an easy thing to change. Will leave it off unless someone is on board to hear the buzzer and turn it off if battery voltage is high (full).
Don't have any cell level monitoring. Local supplier of Winston cells (evworks.com.au) advises they are not a necessity for a 4S pack provided you keep it under 14.2 V maximum. They have many years of experience with these cells, though perhaps more in car conversions and some off grid house arrangments. Off grid house is just a bigger version of a yacht I guess however!
I have noted individual cell voltages very carefully during charging and discharging in dock a few times overnight. This was done with a calibrated high quality voltmeter (we have more electronic data logging and measurement toys at
work than I care to remember! So i can run a full charge discharge test logging every parameter possible should I want.) I noted that there was a decent voltage drop between the Victron charger readings and the battery, despite big
cables and a short cable run. At 90A charging, victron was reading 13.85V but was only actually 13.61V at the battery! So I stopped charging and hooked up the dedicated battery sense wires from the terminals to the Victron. Now it would lock on the programed voltage very steadily during absorbtion charging, within 40 mV. Much better!
Before you ask, I haven't forgotten the lead starter battery. With the arrangement described above, it would get not float charge when in dock and
shore power is on, as there is not automatic connection between start and house batteries. And over time it would lose charge and, capacity and life. Luckily Victron have though of this and provided for small current termainals to connect to your dedicated starter battery. So it should keep it floated (albeit at 13V) and make it a bit happier when in dock on the charger and waiting for some sailing action.
So there you go...big
learning curve, but it'll be worth it I hope! We've spent the
money now, so have to make it work I guess! Thanks to all the good info posted here I have some good starting points, but happy to hear any thoughts about what can be done to keep it performing well, for a good time and safely. Fire away please, I'm all theory and very little practice as yet!