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[Cruising Roo]

Originally Posted by BugzyCan

Why would you be on the water if you don't like the motion? Why not just drive a car up and down and sleep in a land bed?

Ok...well I can not help myself sorry but EVERYTHING that EVERYONE has helped me with on this site has been second to none (awesome) but your comment is dead set stupid..[.no more need be said

[Cruising Roo]

Originally Posted by Bobby Lex

How much you roll at anchor is much more a factor of which anchorage you select rather than the type of boat you're on.

Subject to the above, as a general rule, motor yachts should roll more than sailboats because they are more top-heavy.

Bob

Thanks Bobby Lex. I was thinking the opposite because of the hull shape and much wider beam but i may be wrong. Either way, i appreciate your input

[Cruising Roo]

Originally Posted by UYA

As said above a good anchorage is key. But it's not always possible and what can be a calm anchorage one day might be a rolly one the other day.
A flopper stopper helps to a certain degree. I's a cheap way to get more comfort at anchor...

There you go UYA. I have been on fishing trawlers with a similar set up and never gave it a second thought for a sailing vessel but oh it makes so much sense. I think Alzheimer's may be setting in !!!. Great reply and thank you. darren

[Cruising Roo]

Originally Posted by Fore and Aft

Cruising Roo generally speaking at anchor if one yacht or trawler is rolling they're all rolling. There's just different degrees of roll. If it becomes gunnel to gunnel rolling then it's time to leave for us. Normally a bit of motion is easily ignored and I seem to be the only one onboard stressing if it's going to get worse. Marina's are normally motion free. They all have one weak point where some slight motion might happen, but it's nothing like being anchored.
I think you might need to crew for a week to see if it's for you. More than one client of mine has been surprised to find not every anchorage is flat and there's not a dinghy dock at every beach.
Cheers

As usual...great advice my friend. My thought process was that there may be times when i want to stay at the one marina for 6 months or more which is all a part of the decision making process of which way to go with a boat. Cheers

[chrisr]

any multihull (power or sail) will roll less at anchor than any mono (power or sail)

in my experience power monos seem to roll somewhat less than sail monos, but 'it depends' on so much...hull shape, displacement etc

does not seem to be any noticeable diff between rolling of power cats & sail cats

cheers,

[chrisr]

Originally Posted by GILow

I have vowed never to complain of a rolly anchorage again after friends told me about the night they got friction burns in bed from the rolling.

and you believed them that the friction burns were from the rolling (and not other nocturnal activities) ?

oh, btw, i have this bridge i'd like to sell...

cheers,

[aqfishing]

Originally Posted by chrisr

any multihull (power or sail) will roll less at anchor than any mono (power or sail)

in my experience power monos seem to roll somewhat less than sail monos, but 'it depends' on so much...hull shape, displacement etc

does not seem to be any noticeable diff between rolling of power cats & sail cats

cheers,

Having chartered the power cat version of our sailing cat I feel that power version is a bit more lively with a quicker roll. This is greatly amplified when using the upstairs lounge. The higher you are off the water, the more accentuated the roll.(This is true for all vessels). The mast on the sailing cat definitely helps to dampen any rolling motion. We once chartered a 40ft sailing cat that was converted to a motor yacht simply by removing the mast(my guess is something happened and they never had the money to replace it!). This yacht had one of the worst motions I have ever experienced.

[Sheer Pleasure]

Darren,
I spend a lot of time on my yacht and yes there are days when the rolling can get to you,
So sleep across the bed if it is bad or shift and go somewhere out of the wind and swell.
Mostly a yacht with sail on is a much nicer motion at sea and reduces fuel costs.
I will be traveling up the east coast this year
Stay safe

Paul

[Cruising Roo]

Originally Posted by GILow

Well, living aboard on the east coast of Oz has some challenges, the first of which is that NSW won’t let you, at least not for more than some number of days, somebody here will tell us, I’ve forgotten.

As for motion, piece of string question. The trick is to stop in good anchorages, I.e. smooth anchorages. Then the motion of the boat does not really matter.

Size for size sailing boats can be a little more stable thanks to the momentum of the mast, but then size for size (or should I say length for length) sailing boats have a lot less space than motor boats.

In my case I turned down first bids on a really nice trawler for sale near me because I could see that the fuel costs would prevent me from travelling. That boat would have been more comfortable than my sailing boat but I would never have gone anywhere.

Hi Gilow. I have contacted the authorities was told that I can anchor anywhere other that Sydney harbor and private moorings of course but no longer than 3 months. Not saying this is 'gospel' but there it is. Yes totally understand your comment about trawlers and fuel costs especially now and an Adams 12 was for sale in my town and sounded perfect but as my son said, I have physical limitations that would make sailing 'questionable' for me. I think a slow fuel efficient trawler may be the go but I am still learning so much. Hauling sails sounds a bit 'painful' with my terrible back injury. Im selling my property and am on a Disability pension so may need to 'burn' some money on diesel. Thanks heaps for your reply. Darren

[Cruising Roo]

Originally Posted by chrisr

any multihull (power or sail) will roll less at anchor than any mono (power or sail)

in my experience power monos seem to roll somewhat less than sail monos, but 'it depends' on so much...hull shape, displacement etc

does not seem to be any noticeable diff between rolling of power cats & sail cats

cheers,

Thanks Chrisr

[Cruising Roo]

Originally Posted by JPA Cate

We've lived aboard various sailboats since 1986. I have lots part of a few nights' sleep, due to motion. Mainly not, though. Some of those were under way. Now, everyone's different: there is little way to predict how one particular individual will react to the brand new experience of boat motion all the time.

What was written above about the anchorage is correct: good anchorages are usually not very rolly. Most cruising guides will mention if there are conditions under which an anchorage will become rolly. Generally, if there is some breeze, it will hold the boat stern to the swell, and that will give comfortable nights' rest. However, changing wind directions can sometimes hold you beam to the swell, and you'll roll like h--l. I try to look upon that when it happens as God inviting me to get an earlier start on the day than I had planned. It is a way of thinking about it that allows me to turn loose of the aggro, and get in a longer day's run. I also have accumulated enough experience to know that we sometimes "lose" sleep, and that I can take a nap later on, if need be.

Some monohull shapes tend to roll more than others, just as some are more prone to hobby-horsing. Smaller boats tend to be more "lively" than larger ones.

Ann

Thanks so much Ann. Of course technology has let me down again and needed to get a new notebook computer and still trying to work out how the hell it all works. My last notebook was an intel I7 (maybe the first one) and died because...maybe I have drowned it one too many times with a "shandy" or 10 so it took me some time to get back on the site...