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Old 07-04-2021, 04:54   #16
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Re: Id like to start sailing but...

+1 on the Optimist. Very safe, to the point that a small beginner can be given half a sail by leaving out the gaff. Very afordable. Unlike the Sunfish, the pram just sits there if sailed improperly. I never managed to capsize mine.

Old man's memory: My parents gave me an Optimist made by Clark Mills, the designer and a school mate of my mother, for my eighth birthday. Sixty years later I was putting up the Cam below Cambridge (UK) and ran into an entire fleet of them at a sailing school for kids.
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Old 07-04-2021, 08:23   #17
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Optimists teach even small kids in a safe way to be responsible and that their actions matter.
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Old 07-04-2021, 09:46   #18
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Don't stick her in an Optimist unless she has an amazing sense of humour, loves to laugh at herself, absolutely loves being in water and does not fear looking stupid in public.
Exactly,
I met my wife in her Opti but that was when we were of a size to make it a 2 person boat.
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Old 07-04-2021, 10:24   #19
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It's always best to start from the begining. That being getting some experience before you jump in head first. The idea of local clubs is a good start, Most will probably give classes to get you going. Some of the clubs will also have various sized boats to offer club members depending on the level of experience and classes they have received. Racing with a crew teaches you a lot in a short time as your skipper pushes his boat to the limits. While being crew you may be able to work your way up to skipper. Don't get too far ahead of yourself or the experience could be a negative one for your family. Once you have the confidence and experience only then should you start to consider what boat is best for you to actually own. Until then you can keep the expenses low by using other peoples and club boats.
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Calif.Ted touches on something very important: Unbeatable as the Opti is for little kids (six and eight year olds) it is NOT IMO a good bat for a grown woman to learn on. She will, if she is quite green, feel cramped and insecure in so small a boat and likely go quite atavistic :-)!. 'The next size up" such as Jack Holt's Enterprise is far better because it is roomy enuff to carry an instructor in addition to the student.

These days, at least around here, the Enterprise seems to have been replaced by the "420" which is the same size but a little "livelier". If your wife is keen, a 13 or 14 foot dinghy is great for learning on. If your wife is a little hesitant, I would recommend letting her take courses at a local sailing school that uses smallish keel boats. In my day it was Cal 20s. Super, super boats to learn on. I don't know what clubs use these days, so here is a pic:

https://sailboatdata.com/sailboat/cal-20

Try to find a club that uses something similar

I also found in my teaching days that women generally learn better from someone other than their husbands/partners. The sex of the instructor doesn't seem to matter. It's the fact that it's someone outside the daily "authority relationship".

All the best to you all

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Go to a boat club and try to crew for a bit...it's free!
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RYA basic courses is the way to go, However
I strongly suggest that you find a
Ladies Only course for your wife.
A completely different dynamic and
much more supportive then a mixed group.
Even better if its offered with a lady instructor.
Not being sexist here, Some of the hardest core,
toughest, most competent
sailors that I know are women
After you get the basics, buy a 17 to 20 foot
daysailer and have at it
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Re: Id like to start sailing but...

Learning to sail is the easy part. Almost anyone can become serviceably proficient in a week or two. To become really good takes longer.

Getting up to speed on this stuff takes a lot longer ....
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Learning to sail is the easy part. Almost anyone can become serviceably proficient in a week or two. To become really good takes longer.

Getting up to speed on this stuff takes a lot longer ....
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Interesting link....but it made me realised how much I ignore about boats! Haha
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Go to a boat club and try to crew for a bit...it's free!

Yeah, I'll explore that option fort before enrolling into a course. Thanks!
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RYA basic courses is the way to go, However
I strongly suggest that you find a
Ladies Only course for your wife.
A completely different dynamic and
much more supportive then a mixed group.
Even better if its offered with a lady instructor.
Not being sexist here, Some of the hardest core,
toughest, most competent
sailors that I know are women
After you get the basics, buy a 17 to 20 foot
daysailer and have at it
Cheers
Neil

Where I live , the sailing school near me does IYT , not RYA. I've done a bit of research and seems they are about the same? Wouldn't want to kick off a separate discussion about certificates....but would it be a no-no?
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Re: Id like to start sailing but...

The RYA is much more recognised in Aus.
Havent looked at they IYT, but they seem similar at the beginner level.
You could always do Comp Crew with your local school (IYT) then cross over to RYA for the more advanced levels.
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Re: Id like to start sailing but...

Hi and welcome, I will echo others and suggest that you wander up to Cronulla Sailing Club, next door to the ferry wharf at cronulla and just down from the train station on a saturday morning and ask around about crewing to find out if it is for you. Unfortunately you have just missed the friday twilight races, they are a great evening social race around the bay and a good "get together" after. The club is pretty friendly and FULL of knowledgeable sailers.
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