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19-09-2020, 19:17
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Yacht collides with bulk carrier
Here is an interesting bit of news. Lucky no one was hurt. Notice the rescue guys are all wearing masks.
Cheers
https://www.fleetmon.com/maritime-ne...cked-river-uk/
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19-09-2020, 19:26
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Re: Yacht collides with bulk carrier
that's going to ruin somebodies trip...glad seems no loss of life
but i'd question the line in the article "Collision took place at night, so it is highly likely, that it was mainly, yacht’s fault."
seems to be a very sweeping assumption on little evidence, but that journalism for you...
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19-09-2020, 20:22
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Re: Yacht collides with bulk carrier
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Originally Posted by Fore and Aft
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It is interesting that the identification of the yacht and face of (presumably) one of its crew were blurred out in the photo.
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19-09-2020, 21:40
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Re: Yacht collides with bulk carrier
That URL points to an article about :
"Freighter broke off moorings, blocked river, UK"
Is this the article?
https://www.fleetmon.com/maritime-ne...ast-china-sea/
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19-09-2020, 21:44
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Re: Yacht collides with bulk carrier
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Originally Posted by StuM
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it's actually on of the other articles mentioned to the side
correct link is
https://www.fleetmon.com/maritime-ne...ast-china-sea/
cheers,
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19-09-2020, 21:48
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Re: Yacht collides with bulk carrier
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21-09-2020, 03:44
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Re: Yacht collides with bulk carrier
There is so much confusion in the current situation. As I understand it, there must be some routes to avoid collisions. It's only in the movies that you want to and you swim. But in fact, when you go out to sea, you need to understand who you can run into, with some kind of scheduled ship.
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21-09-2020, 04:25
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Re: Yacht collides with bulk carrier
WOW! Sounds like they will get a fair review “ Collision took place at night, so it is highly likely, that it was mainly, yacht’s fault.”
Did not know that at night large power vessels were automatically stand on. Although the jib is rolled up (under power?), contact appears to be on her port side. Indicating she was the sailboat was stand on. But, she shares blame under the “avoid collisions” rule. Just annoying to see such a slanted statement.
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21-09-2020, 04:40
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Re: Yacht collides with bulk carrier
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Originally Posted by chrisr
, but that journalism for you...
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It's the opposite of journalism - it's editorializing. Balanced news-reporting has been dead for years.
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27-09-2020, 14:38
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Re: Yacht collides with bulk carrier
And these guys were told to stay in port in Ostia !
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27-09-2020, 14:57
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Re: Yacht collides with bulk carrier
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Originally Posted by Snore
contact appears to be on her port side. Indicating she was the sailboat was stand on.
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A sailing vessel is deemed the give-way vessel when approaching a vessel which is not under command, a vessel with restricted maneuverability, or a vessel engaged in commercial fishing.
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27-09-2020, 15:03
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Re: Yacht collides with bulk carrier
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Originally Posted by BugzyCan
A sailing vessel is deemed the give-way vessel when approaching a vessel which is not under command, a vessel with restricted maneuverability, or a vessel engaged in commercial fishing.
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Very good. Did the report say she was NUC? Engaged in an operation that gave her restricted maneuverability? To my knowledge this class of vessel is incapable of being a commercial fishing vessel
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27-09-2020, 16:39
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Re: Yacht collides with bulk carrier
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Originally Posted by Snore
Very good. Did the report say she was NUC? Engaged in an operation that gave her restricted maneuverability? To my knowledge this class of vessel is incapable of being a commercial fishing vessel
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A bulk carrier is a freighter, and they have reduced maneuverability or what are you thinking a carrier is? The picture shows a freighter, not sure if that is the correct ship though.
I would guess the crew of the sailboat fell asleep, and the crew of the carrier were not watching their radar or blasting their horn.
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28-09-2020, 05:50
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Re: Yacht collides with bulk carrier
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Originally Posted by BugzyCan
A bulk carrier is a freighter, and they have reduced maneuverability or what are you thinking a carrier is? The picture shows a freighter, not sure if that is the correct ship though.
I would guess the crew of the sailboat fell asleep, and the crew of the carrier were not watching their radar or blasting their horn.
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The name on the freighter in the picture matches that mentioned in the article so fairly certain it's the "correct" ship. Bulk carrier, freighter, Panamax - whatever you want to call it, it's a power-driven vessel by the rules - you should probably have a read of these: https://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/...r.c.,_c._1416/
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28-09-2020, 06:29
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Re: Yacht collides with bulk carrier
Quote:
Originally Posted by BugzyCan
A bulk carrier is a freighter, and they have reduced maneuverability or what are you thinking a carrier is? The picture shows a freighter, not sure if that is the correct ship though.
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A little knowledge is a dangerous thing
The term “vessel restricted in her ability to manoeuvre” means a vessel which from the nature of her work is restricted in her ability to manoeuvre as required by these Rules and is therefore unable to keep out of the way of another vessel. The term “vessels restricted in their ability to manoeuvre” shall include but not be limited to:
(i) a vessel engaged in laying, servicing or picking up a navigation mark, submarine cable or pipeline;
(ii) a vessel engaged in dredging, surveying or underwater operations;
(iii) a vessel engaged in replenishment or transferring persons, provisions or cargo while underway;
(iv) a vessel engaged in the launching or recovery of aircraft;
(v) a vessel engaged in mine clearance operations;
(vi) a vessel engaged in a towing operation such as severely restricts the towing vessel and her tow in their ability to deviate from their course.
Nothing to do with the nature of the vessel, just what it's doing limiting its freedom of action..
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