Titanic tourist submersible goes missing

[GordMay]

Originally Posted by cal40john

According to the documentary his trimaran was falling apart before he got into serious waves in the south. He put ashore in South America to make repairs at one point.

As many narratives have documented*, Donald Crowhurst’s trimaran, “Teignmouth Electron”, was incomplete, ill provisioned, and falling apart, right from the very start.
“This bloody boat is just falling to pieces due to lack of attention to engineering detail!!!” Crowhurst wrote in his log.
* ie ➥ https://www.yachtingworld.com/featur...e-mercy-123426

[TeddyDiver]

Originally Posted by cal40john

According to the documentary his trimaran was falling apart before he got into serious waves in the south. He put ashore in South America to make repairs at one point.

And it was basicly undamaged when found later without DC..

[Iron E]

Originally Posted by TeddyDiver

How? Becouse I see them as total opposites. DC had mental issue with sound vessel.

My description "Ambitious, Incompetence, Underestimating Risk, Inadequate Preparations, Tragedy" draws parallels between the men's behavior and decisions and has nothing to do with their vessels.

[grantmc]

Originally Posted by GordMay

Not necessarily. As Iron E notes:

One shouldn’t let one’s world view decide “facts”. In any civil jury trial, there are two adjudicators of the issues: the judge, who decides questions of law, and the jury, which decides questions of fact.

Many trials are decided by judge alone. Also there's an obvious difference between filing a motion and seeing that motion go all the way to the bitter end with a Court decision. The legal process drains both the wallet and the mind.

As an aside I fail to see any resemblance between the actions/consequences of Donald Crowhurst and Stockton Rush. Their ambitions were very different. Both stupid for sure, but Crowhurst went to sea knowing he had a whole heap of things to finish, and knowing too he'd had very limited sailing experience. Nor was Crowhurst carrying passengers, paying or otherwise. As an aside English and US judicial systems are significantly different.

[GordMay]

Apparently, Janicki Industries, one of the defendants, in a wrongful death lawsuit, stemming from the implosion of the “Titan", filed a petition, on Aug. 12, to remove the case from Washington State court, to U.S. District [Federal] Court.
The plaintiffs in the case [the family of French explorer Paul-Henri Nargeolet] have until the middle of next month, to respond to the request.
I don't know their reasoning.

[GordMay]

Titanic artifact, believed lost, spotted during first visit to wreck since Titan sub disaster
A bronze statue, from the Titanic,“Diana of Versailles”, sculpted in 325BC, believed to have been lost for good, was found, by RMS Titanic, Inc., the Georgia-based company that holds the salvage rights, in a recent [July 2024] expedition down to the shipwreck.
The expedition team spent 20 days at the site, and captured more than two million images, which the team is now processing, so findings can be shared with the public, and scientific communities.
More about ➥ https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-b2605930.html

[GordMay]

”The Titan's former lead engineer says he felt pressured to get the submersible ready” ~ CBC News
More ➥ https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/newfo...uiry-1.7324406

The 2-week hearing, into implosion that killed 5 people began Monday, in North Charleston, S.C.
The lead engineer testified Monday that he felt pressured to get the vessel ready to dive and refused to pilot it for a journey several years earlier.
"'I'm not getting in it,'" Tony Nissen said he told Stockton Rush, co-founder of the OceanGate company, that owned the Titan submersible.
Nissen also noted that the Titan was struck by lightning during a test mission in 2018, and that might have compromised its hull.

[GordMay]

Key takeaways from [first of two weeks] Titan sub hearings ➥ https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c3e9300128eo

Titan sub hearing: 1st week filled with tearful testimonies over OceanGate
➥ https://youtu.be/SXid1zlno5g

New Footage of destroyed Titan sub’ ➥ https://twitter.com/i/status/1836842697803571691

Titan sub wreckage on the ocean floor ➥ https://globalnews.ca/video/10762235...s-coast-guard/

[GordMay]

“Why were passengers allowed on OceanGate’s experimental Titan sub?” ~ The Fifth Estate
Documentary Video [44:10] ➥ https://youtu.be/h4bYuSL8uVQ

In collaboration with Radio-Canada’s program, Enquête*, The Fifth Estate’s Mark Kelley investigates how an experimental sub was allowed to take passengers to one of the most unforgiving places in the ocean, to explore the Titanic wreck. Also, how they did it, via the port in St. John's Newfoundland, one of the most monitored and regulated harbours in Canada.
00:00 - Stockton Rush pitches OceanGate
11:57 - Inside a sub: How safe is it?
21:30 - Firsthand: What it’s like to dive in the Titan
24:51 - Taxiing in Newfoundland and Titan’s Canadian support ship
34:31 - The hours after communication was lost


“The deadly dive to the Titanic” ~ The Fifth Estate, from March 28, 2024
➥ https://www.cbc.ca/newsinteractives/...to-the-titanic

Wreckage



* “Titan, the implosion that Canada failed to prevent” ~ Enquete
En Français ➥

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gjDJtqroBjY

[JPA Cate]

Here's another link to another story about the hearing. It is fairly damning. But there are still unanswered questions and we may get answers next year when the Coast Guard publishes its final diagnosis of what started the implosion.

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/09/27/s...e-hearing.html

[GordMay]

NTSB engineer testifies carbon fiber hull from submersible showed signs of flaws
A National Transportation safety board engineer says the carbon fiber hull of the Titan submersible, that imploded, en route to the wreckage of the Titanic, had imperfections, dating to the manufacturing process.
Video ➥ https://youtu.be/KlWzbMZp86w
And ➥ https://apnews.com/video/u-s-coast-g...35ad878a2973e0
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0eqmvcq1dJA