C&N managed yacht sinks off Sicily, 7 missing

[Tillsbury]

Surprised there’s no thread on this yet. Any news?

https://x.com/bbcbreaking/status/182...LsYBTPVB6gf8dQ

Edit: it’s a 183’ Perini Navi
https://t.co/CmG1LmbW3G

[Tupaia]

There is a better news report.
http://https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c0k4751jrm8o

[Tillsbury]

They seem to be updating it regularly now. The second link from superyacht times is better than the first one I saw

[boatman61]

15 people rescued to date.. 1 dead and 6 missing..

[Invictus69]

https://www.superyachttimes.com/yach...-seven-missing


Curious to learn what exactly happened.

[Franziska]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...tivemenubutton

Terrible, at night the would likely not even have seen what was heading for them.

Surprising that she capsized due to the mast coming down.
They were at anchor at night, no sails up. Wonder if the Genoa unfurled prior to the dismasting. The weight of the mast hanging over the side must have rolled her then? Speculation, will be interesting to see the MCA investigation on this one.


Terrifying, we are still in Ponza (way north of Sicily, close to Rome) and had two big water spouts pass about 2nm south of us yesterday afternoon. Thankfully no casualties over here.

[confusednoise]

We are in the Aeolians - we literally shared an anchorage with Bayesian two days ago off of Salina. We were marveling at it - it was an incredibly beautiful boat. It had one of the tallest aluminum masts of any boat in the world. The BBC report says that they had anchored off of Palermo and that the big mast broke, leading to the capsize.

Scary and sad. Very sorry for the loss of life. The localized thunderstorms here have been very intense and unpredictable over the last few days. They must have gotten caught in the wrong place at the wrong time.

[Capt Clark]

“ Witnesses told Italian news agency Ansa that the Bayesian’s anchor was down when the storm struck, causing the mast to break and the ship to lose its balance and sink.”

What a strange statement. That’s how that works?

[Statistical]

Originally Posted by Capt Clark

“ Witnesses told Italian news agency Ansa that the Bayesian’s anchor was down when the storm struck, causing the mast to break and the ship to lose its balance and sink.”

What a strange statement. That’s how that works?

Statements from rando eyewitnesses are often nonsense like that. I can't see how having anchor being up or down would have anything to do with anything.

If she got demasted and it wasn't a clean break that I guess could have pushed one side of the boat under water enough to start flooding and then it became a self reinforcing problem until she sank completely. Regardless the anchor would not impact that scenario either way.

[Statistical]

Originally Posted by Franziska

Surprising that she capsized due to the mast coming down.

Me too. If she got knocked down I am surprised she didn't roll over completely before doing a 360 back up.

I guess the mast hanging over the side could have pushed the side under enough to begin flooding instead of rolling over but if that is the case that is either unlucky or some unsafe engineering. The mast even hanging over the side shouldn't create enough deadweight to sink her right?

It will be an interesting investigation.

[Franziska]

Originally Posted by Statistical

Me too. If she got knocked down I am surprised she didn't roll over completely before doing a 360 back up.

I guess the mast hanging over the side could have pushed the side under enough to begin flooding instead of rolling over but if that is the case that is either unlucky or some unsafe engineering. The mast even hanging over the side shouldn't create enough deadweight to sink her right?

It will be an interesting investigation.

My guess is, most hatches & portlights were open due to the heat.

Boat heeled over under bare poles (we saw a waterspouts touch down about 2Nm from us yesterday, I can see that having enough force), possibly the Genoa unfurled. Hatches/portlights open lead to severe flooding.

Boat heels more and does not recover. Down she goes.

[leecea]

I read that it was the only sloop rigged Peri Navi 53 and the 250' mast was aluminum (I guess a lot of the large masts are carbon). The mast and rigging must be extremely heavy.

[Franziska]

Originally Posted by leecea

I read that it was the only sloop rigged Peri Navi 53 and the 250' mast was aluminum (I guess a lot of the large masts are carbon). The mast and rigging must be extremely heavy.

As she was at anchor, she unlikely had sails up. The designer accounts for the heeling moment of such a mast with a huge keel.



I could see one more thing, maybe she had shell doors or a huge transom door open and the interior watertight passageway were not closed. Perhaps also due to heat.



This would flood her very fast if heeled over enough.

[Invictus69]

I am still puzzled that the mast can simply break on a ship of that size (regardless of its unusual design of oversized sloop) while sitting at anchor without sails. I assume this ship sailed the world oceans for 15+ years. I guess 25kt wind under full sail + waves cause more stress on the mast than 50kt wind on bare mast sitting at anchor.

Even if the mast broke because of the wind, I cannot see a scenario being that heavy to capsize the yacht so it floods and sinks that fast so people cannot get out. What's the weight of the ballast vs weight of the mast as a counter force? Again, my layman logic.

I also wonder to see the identities of the people onboard (the 'conspiracy' angle)

Tragic event for the loss of life. As somebody earlier said, it will be an interesting investigation.

[leecea]

The captain of the other vessel seems to indicate they were knocked down by the wind.

The captain says the Bayesian "went flat on the water and then down".

"There was a light and we saw that the ship was aside and then we saw a triangle. So I think she went back down," Borner added.