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04-05-2018, 09:35
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Article "Pirates 'massacre' Guyana fishermen off Suriname coast"
Pirates 'massacre' Guyana fishermen off Suriname coast - BBC News
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Guyana's President David Granger has described as a "massacre" a pirate attack last week that is feared to have killed at least a dozen fishermen.
"It is a great massacre, a great tragedy," Mr Granger said on Thursday.
Four boats carrying some 20 people were attacked off the coast of neighbouring Suriname in South America last Friday, local authorities said.
The bodies of three men have since been found. Four others were said to have escaped, Reuters news agency reported.
Some of the fishermen who remain missing were forced into the sea with weights tied to their legs, according to reports from the survivors....
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08-08-2018, 01:55
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Re: Article "Pirates 'massacre' Guyana fishermen off Suriname coast"
This kind of blows out of the water, figuratively and literally, the old coward's argument that if you just submit they will take a few things and leave.
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08-08-2018, 02:54
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Re: Article "Pirates 'massacre' Guyana fishermen off Suriname coast"
This sounds more like a "hit" than a random pirate attack. Any links or details?
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08-08-2018, 03:05
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Re: Article "Pirates 'massacre' Guyana fishermen off Suriname coast"
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Originally Posted by Jackofall
This sounds more like a "hit" than a random pirate attack. Any links or details?
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My thoughts too, turf war perhaps?
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08-08-2018, 04:51
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Re: Article "Pirates 'massacre' Guyana fishermen off Suriname coast"
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Originally Posted by Pete7
My thoughts too, turf war perhaps?
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Sure sounds like it.
However, don't discount this type of criminal. If they are willing to kill over fishing grounds, a free hit on a rich cruising sailboat isn't beyond them.
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08-08-2018, 06:09
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Re: Article "Pirates 'massacre' Guyana fishermen off Suriname coast"
Yep a turf war between fishermen.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-s...-idUSKBN1IC23C
Guyana’s Police Commissioner David Ramnarine said the attack appeared to stem from a previous killing on the mainland.
“The basis for this gruesome, heinous and dastardly attack has to do with some sort of retaliation by one of the persons in custody whose brother was allegedly gunned down in a drive-by shooting on March 30 in Suriname,” Ramnarine said Wednesday in Georgetown.
https://www.kaieteurnewsonline.com/2...y-of-mourning/
In Suriname, several persons remain in custody for the separate attacks on April 27 and May 3, which were described as revenge actions by Guyanese fishermen in Suriname for a killing of a prominent boat owner. That boat owner, who is the brother of Manohar, was killed in his Paramaribo home.
Manohar is alleged to have organised the attacks which took place about 40 miles off Paramaribo, near French Guiana.
Second deadly pirate attack off Suriname's coast within one week
According to reports there is strong evidence that the latest attacks are not random acts of criminals robbing fishermen of their catch or other valuables.
Several sources indicate that a turf war between Guyanese fishermen over fishing grounds. According to Slijngard there is credible intelligence that a gang of nine to 11 criminals led by two Guyanese brothers are responsible for recent attacks on fishermen.
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09-08-2018, 08:23
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Re: Article "Pirates 'massacre' Guyana fishermen off Suriname coast"
we desperately need another large asteroid strike sooner rather than later. thousands of years of living together and we still kill one another like the animals we started out as. absolutely amazing...does anyone have the Antichrists cell phone # or email? we need to give him/her a call.
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09-08-2018, 10:13
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Re: Article "Pirates 'massacre' Guyana fishermen off Suriname coast"
Love it! It is said we are a primitive creature with medieval institutions and god like technology. WHAT COULD GO WRONG?
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09-08-2018, 15:54
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Re: Article "Pirates 'massacre' Guyana fishermen off Suriname coast"
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Love it! It is said we are a primitive creature with medieval institutions and god like technology. WHAT COULD GO WRONG?
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lol...i like that. i think we need a moratorium on all scientific research until the other two aspects of our species/civilization catch up to our technology.
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09-08-2018, 15:55
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Re: Article "Pirates 'massacre' Guyana fishermen off Suriname coast"
REality check: why in the world would "pirates" attack a group of poor fishermen at sea?Gonna take all their Rolexes, empty the safe of cash and rape the pretty women on board???
Pretty clear that this ain't piracy for profit!
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09-08-2018, 17:01
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Re: Article "Pirates 'massacre' Guyana fishermen off Suriname coast"
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Originally Posted by Jim Cate
REality check: why in the world would "pirates" attack a group of poor fishermen at sea?Gonna take all their Rolexes, empty the safe of cash and rape the pretty women on board???
Pretty clear that this ain't piracy for profit!
Jim
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Not for profit, but piracy, none the less.
Piracy is a matter of actions, not of motivation
Regardless of reason, this was a case of piracy, so the perpetrators are by definition, pirates.
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13-08-2018, 09:21
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Re: Article "Pirates 'massacre' Guyana fishermen off Suriname coast"
Article in the Washingto Post
https://www.washingtonpost.com/graph...=.3671a47791a6
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CEDROS, Trinidad and Tobago — In the flickers of sunlight off the cobalt blue of the Caribbean sea, the vessel appeared as a cut on the horizon. It sailed closer. But the crew of the Asheena took no heed.
“We be lookin’ for our red fish as normal, thinkin’ they be fishin’, too,” said Jimmy Lalla, 36, part of the crew that had dropped lines in Trinidadian waters last April a few miles off the lawless Venezuelan coast.
The other vessel kept approaching. “They be needin’ help?” Lalla recalled wondering as it pulled aside their 28-foot pirogue. A short, sinewy man jumped on board, shouting in Spanish and waving a pistol.
“Then we knowin’,” Lalla said. “They be pirates.”..........
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