60' Charter Cat; Moon Dragon rescue

[bhetzel]

Originally Posted by jsanton

I propose it’s possible that the pressure on the escape hatches may have exceeded their design limit.

I'd expect the escape hatches open to the outside so water pressure as waves hit would be keeping them closed. That's some insufficient engineering design if they failed by outside pressure.

But this is all speculation until we get better reporting.

[Skipper Kenny]

Originally Posted by Tin Tin

Check the HIN in the ad.https://www.citimarineyachts.com/co-...ds-us-8822552/

Bwahahaa!

"This 2001 Moon Yachts Sailing Catamaran is the perfect boat for charter use. She is highly successful and comes from a charter business. She ran more than 30 charters in the season that is ending now, but is still in like new condition."

[Jamme]

Wonder how come the sales ad is still up and running.

[Skipper Kenny]

Originally Posted by Jamme

Wonder how come the sales ad is still up and running.

Excellent question, also, how a charter boat maintains 'like new' condition over twenty years. Something isn't adding up.

Scuttled perhaps?

[Tin Tin]

Originally Posted by Skipper Kenny

Excellent question, also, how a charter boat maintains 'like new' condition over twenty years. Something isn't adding up.

Scuttled perhaps?

The 2001 in the ad is likely a typo. HIN PL-WWKM6001H020 number indicates it was hull number 1 built in Poland in 2020 by WWK shipyard.

[Skipper Kenny]

Originally Posted by Tin Tin

The 2001 in the ad is likely a typo. HIN PL-WWKM6001H020 number indicates it was hull number 1 built in Poland in 2020 by WWK shipyard.

Thanks for the correction!

[Warren149]

So I searched all over the uscg site( what a mess!)
Could not find position report of moon yacht .
Has it sunk ? Has it washed on a beach? Is there a salvage company going after a $2.5m yacht? Is insurance company investigating? Or just paying out?? ?
Where is this information?
Where’s the investigative reporters?
Where’s the uscg report on what the crew said ?
It goes on and on

[Skipper Kenny]

Originally Posted by Warren149

So I searched all over the uscg site( what a mess!)
Could not find position report of moon yacht .
Has it sunk ? Has it washed on a beach? Is there a salvage company going after a $2.5m yacht? Is insurance company investigating? Or just paying out?? ?
Where is this information?
Where’s the investigative reporters?
Where’s the uscg report on what the crew said ?
It goes on and on

Thanks for your research.

So, still fishy it would seem.

[Warren149]

Originally Posted by Skipper Kenny

Thanks for your research.

So, still fishy it would seem.

I would say it stinks without proper explanation.
As sailors we are entitled to know why a huge catamaran can be lost so easily!
Hatch’s opened at show and not checked by delivery crew after 2+ days onboard is not credible!

[RedneckRedcoat]

Originally Posted by Warren149

As sailors we are entitled to know why a huge catamaran can be lost so easily!

Why do you think we are entitled to know ? Do you have the same catamaran? Did you take part in the residue effort. Do you have the same port hatches ?

Again lots of internet detectives and lots of assumptions being made

[Bowdrie]

Originally Posted by RedneckRedcoat

Why do you think we are entitled to know ?

It may take a while for the official report to come out, but it will, and we shall know.
Are we "entitled" to know?
But of course, we are quite rightly entitled to know.
The report will not be classified, and our tax money was spent for the CG to rescue those people.

[Warren149]

Originally Posted by RedneckRedcoat

Why do you think we are entitled to know ? Do you have the same catamaran? Did you take part in the residue effort. Do you have the same port hatches ?

Again lots of internet detectives and lots of assumptions being made

I’ve sailed and raced on multihulls with various hatches and escape hatches. We don’t know what hatches leaked but if there’s issues that cause an apparently well found yacht is lost in not ridiculous conditions with professional sailors there is a duty of CG or pro sailors to advise fellow sailors what caused this inexplicable loss.

[admiralslater]

We have an Outremer 45 (Danson) which is fitted with escape hatches . I know there are big differences in the style and weight of the boats but even in quite rough conditions the impact on the hatch is quite minimal. These hatches are quit often of a different spec than regular hatches .
In all my years of sailing failures have been rare but their usefulness has been proven.
Glad the crew survived and I hope more details will come forward .

[Kettlewell]

It may take a while for the official report to come out, but it will, and we shall know.
Are we "entitled" to know?
But of course, we are quite rightly entitled to know.
The report will not be classified, and our tax money was spent for the CG to rescue those people.

Ha! In my experience we never learn much beyond the initial rescue report, which is usually riddled with misinformation and incomplete. The boat is likely to sink eventually and will never be found or searched for.

[SailingHarmonie]

Originally Posted by Kettlewell

Ha! In my experience we never learn much beyond the initial rescue report, which is usually riddled with misinformation and incomplete. The boat is likely to sink eventually and will never be found or searched for.

Do you know how to search the USCG accident report database?

You are never going to find a follow up report in the "news" because it takes time to complete even a cursory investigation, and by then it is not "news" anymore. If you do a bit of digging you'll find lots of reports on accident investigations and failure analyses.

It's true that not EVERY accident gets in there, but any involving commercial traffic or a licensed captain does. The NTSB also gets involved in some serious cases, and all there investigations are online.


For those cases where a full investigation is done, the rerports are also online, but those are for more serious incidents involving injuy, death or serious enviromental issues. https://www.dco.uscg.mil/Our-Organiz...ualty-Reports/