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Old 19-11-2020, 02:47   #1
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What price for quick deal?

Hi...

I prepared my boat for worldwide cruising with help from you gyus, will you help me put a price on it?

In 2015 we left Denmark to sail around the Atlantic.
Great times!
We made it as far as Nova Scotia before Covid19 closed all borders.
No sailing this year! And next?
Life goes on, plans need to be changed. If we can’t go 2021 we must sell the boat.

I need help to put a price on our Pinta for a fast sale in early spring.

Pinta is a Maxi 108 built in 1982 in Sweden.

LOA: 35.27 ft / 10.75 m
Beam: 11.15 ft / 3.40 m
Draft (max): 5.74 ft / 1.75 m
Displacement: 14,330 lb / 6,500 kg

There were build more then 200 until 1983.
She is build as a fast offshore cruising yacht.
We did a major refit before we left Denmark.
She is on the hard and wrapped.

This list contains new made / new bought items between 2013 and 2019 in cooperation with professional boatbuilder and boat-electrician:

Volvo Penta D2-40 (1700 h)
2 Parallel diesel-filter (changeable)
Keel down and refitted, new keel-bolts, added extra keel-bolt
Diesel-tank out and cleaned
New Rudder bushing
Folding propeller
All through hull fittings renewed
Pulpit, push-pit and handrail over spray-hood
Electric bilge pump
Control cables for steering
Railing and scepters
All windows refitted
Bimini with full enclosure with LED cockpit-light
Sprayhood
Cockpit table

Viking 4 person life-raft
Lifelines in cockpit and on deck
4 x automatic lifejackets
EPIRB
Flares

Electrical panel
All wiring
12 volt computer for navigation
Navtex
Second monitor in cockpit
Raymarine linear autopilot
Raymarine wind instrument
Raymarine ST60
Furuno radar
VHF + 2 handheld
AIS active with wifi
Iridium Go sat communication with extern antenna
Navtex
Stereo loudspeakers 2 in salon and 2 in cockpit
Sterling charger for 110 and 220 volt
Sterling 220 volt inverter
Sterling alternator to battery charger (for main bank)
Sterling battery to battery charger (for battery for anchor-winch)
3 battery bank:
1 x 100 amp for anchor winch under v-berth
1 x 100 amp for starter
4 x 6 volt Trojan golf car batteries for main bank (12 volt 480 amp)
2 x Solbian SP-130 watt solar mounted on alluplates on push-pit
2 x Genasun solar regulators
Superwind 350 wind-turbine
Battery monitor for all 3 battery banks
LED lights in boat
LED navigation lights
Manuel alarm from v-berth (strobe-light and siren in cockpit)
Stand and charger for iPad at helm

Floor and fundament in salon
Table tops in galey
Table in saloon
Refrigerator
Stove
Propane switch
Eberspaecher diesel heater
Spectra Ventura 150 water-maker (winterized)
Head and y-valve
Holding-tank 60 liter with gauge
Pressure pump for drink-water

Furler for forestay
Added kutterstay with furling
Boom
Standing and running rigging
Sails:
Heavy mainsail full batt.
120% genua
Genaker on own forestay with furling
Heavy weather kuttersail
Wälder boom brake.
Hale-yard and reefing from cockpit
Folding mast-steps til first spreader
Mast climb equipment/basun chair
Anderson stainless Winches
Aries wind-wane

Chain 100 m. Cromox stainless
Rocna 20 kg. Anchor with swirler
1500 watt electric anchor-winch
Wireless remote with chain counter
Anchor-sail Findelta
Pressure-water with hose for cleaning anchor and chain
Fortress heck-anchor with chain and rope
Jordan series drogue / sea anchor

Highfield 240 Hypalon dinghy
Mercury 5 HP 2 stroke outboard
Fishing gear
Stainless grill
Snorkeling gear
Tools
Pot and pan


Greetings from Denmark

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Old 19-11-2020, 03:20   #2
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Old 19-11-2020, 04:24   #3
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Re: What price for quick deal?

Looking at the other ones out there, $35,000 USD will move it instantly if it’s clean and your stuff is off it.
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Old 19-11-2020, 04:26   #4
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Re: What price for quick deal?

I suspect that you will get less than you may have invested. There are a number for sale between €35k - €40k.

If you want a quick sale then you will have to price it aggressively.

Good luck, covid has spoiled many dreams.
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Old 19-11-2020, 11:30   #5
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Re: What price for quick deal?

With 2 manufacturers about to release vaccines in the 95% efficacy range I would hope we can go cruising this spring. In fact, I'm planning on it.

Currently French Polynesia and other island nations are allowing cruisers to come with restrictions that are reasonable. I expect they will be shutting their borders soon because of the rise in cases worldwide. This rise has been predicted from day 1 due to colder weather, more indoors, flu season etc. I'm thinking in the spring when the current rise has run it's course, nations will again reopen their borders with restrictions and this is without any vaccine which could change everything.

You might think about selling it, prep for selling it but have that as your backup plan.

My 2 cents worth anyway.
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Old 19-11-2020, 11:38   #6
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Your words in the ear of God!

Lets hope so...


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Old 19-11-2020, 12:11   #7
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It's a blind pig in a poke right now.

Problem is unless things open up, expect the pool of potential local buyers to be small, so unless you get lucky, good chance it will take a while unless it's dirt cheap.

On the other hand, toys have been selling of late. Theory is since people can't go on vacation, they are buying a toy as an alternative. Not sure if that will continue especially if it looks like a viable vaccine is coming shortly.
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Old 19-11-2020, 12:16   #8
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A lot of it will come down to location and season. Is the boat still in Nova Scotia? That is out of the way for everyone but the sparse population of Nova Scotia. It's also not a great time of year going into Winter.
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Boats were getting hard to find in Maine last summer, but I don't know about Nova Scotia. As Valhalla 360 noted, many people are buying boats as an easy place to tour safely in the time of CoVid, but you won't get out of Canada to the rest of the east coast of North America, so you would need a Canadian buyer. It is a pretty boat, but old, so the prices spoken of above are probably in the ballpark.
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Re: What price for quick deal?

Canadian duty and taxes will add a chunk to the cost. Not an ideal place to sell a foreign boat.
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Re: What price for quick deal?

Here on Lake Ontario, demand for sailboats boomed and prices skyrocketed last spring. Everyone wanted a boat to enjoy...its the perfect activity during a pandemic....self sufficient, totally distanced, etc.

There remains a high demand for decent sailboats here, and prices remain high.

I'm not reciting anecdotes...I've been trying to by a sailboat myself. When a decent, yet overpriced, boat comes up for sale, it is usually sold (over asking) before I get a chance to even view it. To that end....if you have a sailboat you want to sell on Lake Ontario...please contact me. 30 to 35 feet, shallow draft, good diesel, tiller preferred...C&C32 (shoal), Cape Dory 30, Mirage 33/35, etc. A sailor without a boat is like a cowboy without a horse.
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Re: What price for quick deal?

Some friends recently sold their boat in Fiji for close to what they were looking for after they had to leave it there in April to return to Canada. One of our two boats is stuck in Tahiti - I say stuck because even though it is possible to fly to Papeete (with various kinds of not stringent restrictions, we don't want to. Sailing is restricted to French Polynesia because other nearby island nations are closed and New Zealand, our ultimate destination, is really closed.

We have our fingers crossed that by mid-2021 it will once again be possible to sail at least within the South Pacific and that by October, New Zealand will be open for cruisers.

I agree with those who suggest that selling a boat in Nova Scotia at this time of year and at this time in the pandemic will be very challenging. As some have suggested if it is cheap enough someone will buy it. But, the available market is very much restricted - entry from the US is not possible (with a few minor exceptions but these do not include buying a boat) and even entry from other parts of Canada at the moment is dicey.

The boat mentioned above was sold in Fiji, sight-unseen to a US based buyer and is being delivered back to the US by two Americans who happened to be in Fiji. Something similar could happen with a boat as handsome and as well equipped as yours.
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Re: What price for quick deal?

US Entry rules may change soon,,,,,,,best to wait for spring and see where the C19 situation is.

On March 21, 2020, the U.S., Mexico, and Canada temporarily restricted non-essential travel across the US-Canada land borders. These restrictions will remain in effect until 11:59 p.m. EDT on December 21, 2020.
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I'll buy your boat 15000
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