Want To Buy: Tayana 42, Passport 40, Baba 40, Fast Passage 39?

[TrimtheJib]

I am putting my toe in the water as I prepare to dive headlong (with planning, of course) into liveaboard/cruising mindset.
Because I know it will take some time to lay the groundwork (Sea-work?), working routines adjustment, moorage in Puget Sound etc, I am starting here in the community and keeping my eyes open for boats like above.
Used to have a Contessa 26, which we loved, but for offshore and liveaboard looking bigger.

Thanks, sailors!! Feel in good company.

Derek

[Tsuru]

There is a Fast Passage 39 for sale in Portland. Not cheap, but seems appropriately priced for a well kitted boat. Note that you can usually get interm moorage on the Columbia River until something locally comes up. Good luck on your search.

https://www.yachtworld.com/yacht/197...ge-39-9324105/

[MicHughV]

The Passport 40 is one of my all time favorite boats. Can't go wrong with that.

[Mal Reynolds]

A few more suggestions of this genre:
- Westsail/Fairweather Mariner 39
- Hans Christian Christina 40 or 43
- Island Packet
- Taswell
- Pacific Seacraft

[donradcliffe]

Another vote for the Passport 40.

[Mike OReilly]

How about a Mason 43. And I know this is a little small, but my own boat, a Rafiki 37, is the same type of boat.

[TrimtheJib]

Hey Mike—
Thanks— and I do like the mason 43s or 44s, whatever they are. And regarding going down to 37 feet, it all depends on the layout down below. The Pacific Sea crab 37s have a great reputation for performance/stability, too. Trying to shoot for a two cabin layout – in other words a little more than a quarter berth aft.
Gives a little better illusion of space and privacy.
Derek

[Searles]

Beeing stateside check out the Catalina 42 mk 11 locally built with good back up,having done southern ocean plus trans Tasman ,and Australian east coast and west coast in two different 42 ,comfortable ,quick ,217 nm in the Tasman plus easy to maintain ,⚓️⛵️

[TrimtheJib]

Ok, Searles—-thanks for that tidbit— I hadn’t even thought about a Catalina—I used to have them pegged as kind of Wimpy production boats— A buddy of mine used to call boats like that “bic lighters”, But looking at the 42 Marc two, it looks like a pretty skookum craft! Anyway, great input so thank you!
Cheers-
Derek

[MJH]

Originally Posted by TrimtheJib

I am putting my toe in the water as I prepare to dive headlong (with planning, of course) into liveaboard/cruising mindset.
Because I know it will take some time to lay the groundwork (Sea-work?), working routines adjustment, moorage in Puget Sound etc, I am starting here in the community and keeping my eyes open for boats like above.
Used to have a Contessa 26, which we loved, but for offshore and liveaboard looking bigger.

Thanks, sailors!! Feel in good company. Derek

My recommendations for anyone that includes "offshore" in their plans is to draft a spreadsheet with all the ratios from SailboatData.com and understand what you are buying. You will most likely have to make some tradeoffs when considering your "liveaboard" requirements...what are they (be specific)?

As for moorage, be prepared to spend significant $$$$ every single year for parking a boat that size unless you own some waterfront property (or HOA membership) and maintain your own mooring buoy. Consider investing that annual docking expense (which will increase) into your home mortgage, I did.

Good Luck.

[Cheechako]

My Passport was top notch. Manufacturing changed when they went to the Passport 41, 42. Not as high quality as the P40, but still good.

The Fast Passage 39 I really liked, I thought about buying one. Tollycraft was a top notch power boat builder who wouldn't compromise to the level many of those builders did. Eventually the owner "quit building rather than try to compete with Bayliner". One iffy thing about the FP39 is the deep cockpit. I dont worry much about that stuff but some do.

A friend owned a Baba and they are very well built also, by the renowned Ta Shing yard I think?

Overall, for performance and quality I'd probably go with a Passport if all else was equal.

[Sailshabby]

Originally Posted by TrimtheJib

Hey Mike—
Thanks— and I do like the mason 43s or 44s, whatever they are. And regarding going down to 37 feet, it all depends on the layout down below. The Pacific Sea crab 37s have a great reputation for performance/stability, too. Trying to shoot for a two cabin layout – in other words a little more than a quarter berth aft.
Gives a little better illusion of space and privacy.
Derek

I have a Baba 40 and love it. The aft stateroom is fairly tight. Might consider YachtWorld to get some comparison photos to help your decision.

[nofacey]

Passport 40 is a very nice performance cruiser - watch the dispalacement/length ratio of some of the others.

[flee27]

Not arguing with MJH suggestions about sailboatdata info. But I just listened to or read (can't remember) information about the figures like on sailboatdata not being relevant unless you are looking at boats with similar hull forms, keel types, rig styles, etc.

They were saying that those ratios where developed as a comparison tool when hull shapes were more consistent and more of a similar type.

I wish I could remember where the info was. Made a lot of sense the way it was explained.

Best
Foster

[TrimtheJib]

Thank you all for the input----not only on designs, and direct experience with the makes, but also budgetary planning etc. All very helpful as I plot a passionate, yet realistic course.
I do think understanding design implications of ratios is a good thing to be aware of and also knowing that there are often no perfect parallels in different, even similar designs. I like to know something about the tradeoffs there in terms of performance, safety, other human interfaces below or on deck.

Aside from actually finding and buying a suitable or even ideal craft is less daunting to me than two other realms:
1-Plotting the transition from landlubber/apt dweller to fulltime liveaboard--mindset, downsizing, working routine, and cashflow
2. Maybe implied in "1", but securing liveaboard moorage in Puget Sound (ideally between Everett and Shilshole) seems very daunting. Still, willing to dodge here and there with my lovely new "home" until I can get something more long term.
My apologies---morphing the topic into "liveaboard" discussion, I guess....
Thanks for the coaching thus far, sailors!
Derek