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31-05-2019, 15:20
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#16
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Registered User
Join Date: Sep 2018
Posts: 87
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Re: Help find my boat...stolen
I have shared your thread on various pages on Facebook.
Good luck and will respond if I get any feedback.
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31-05-2019, 15:49
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#17
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Registered User
Join Date: Jan 2015
Posts: 377
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Re: Help find my boat...stolen
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Originally Posted by Offjetnow
I just pulled it up by vessel name and the correct info with that Doc. number came up. Jade Queen 904841.
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Yes, it's there.
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31-05-2019, 16:16
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#18
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Registered User
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Miami, FL
Boat: Planet, Earth LOA∞
Posts: 188
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Re: Help find my boat...stolen
You may give this idea some thought:
I suggest you post on reddit's country specific subs. Start on /r/Vzla with a heading where you ask the local boating community to help you. Maybe put a $ character in the heading. No need to translate it, many there speak english. From there move on to r/Colombia, r/Panama, etc.
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31-05-2019, 16:50
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#19
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Registered User
Join Date: Sep 2018
Location: Paynesville Victoria Australia
Boat: Stuart 47
Posts: 207
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Re: Help find my boat...stolen
Do any of the possible harbours have web cam installed?
A mate had a trailer boat stolen from his house. Several years later "google street map" was accessed and there was a photo of his boat being hooked up to the thiefs' car. Number plate identified, led to the boat being recovered. Ya gotta be lucky sometimes
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31-05-2019, 18:06
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#20
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Registered User
Join Date: Jul 2018
Posts: 22
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Re: Help find my boat...stolen
There’s a Vagabond 47 for sale on Ebay. Not sure if it’s the same one? Fair Winds [emoji305]
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31-05-2019, 18:27
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#21
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Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Lakewood Ranch, FLORIDA
Boat: Alden 50, Sarasota, Florida
Posts: 3,614
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Re: Help find my boat...stolen
I’m assuming you had insurance which paid off your loss in which case it isn’t really your boat anymore. If you didn’t want to pay for insurance, it’s difficult to empathize with your situation particularly as you were in the hurricane belt.
For others reading this, insurance is only expensive if you never need it.
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31-05-2019, 18:41
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#22
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Registered User
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Ocala FL
Boat: 1979 Bristol 35.5 CB
Posts: 1,979
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Re: Help find my boat...stolen
"If you didn’t want to pay for insurance, it’s difficult to empathize with your situation"
Not for me. I only have liability. Hard to say who's the bigger a-hole, the thief or someone who thinks insurance is the answer to everything and if something uninsured gets stolen, you somehow deserve it.
Good luck on your search.
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NURDLE, 1979 Bristol 35.5 CB
Currently hauled out ashore Summerfield FL for refit
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31-05-2019, 19:05
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#23
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Registered User
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Houston
Boat: ‘01 Catana 401
Posts: 9,627
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Re: Help find my boat...stolen
Quote:
Originally Posted by S/V Illusion
For others reading this, insurance is only expensive if you never need it.
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That’s a condescending statement if I ever heard one.
We carry liability only, as the premiums for hull insurance outweigh the value gained on an old small boat.
Thievery is not excusable if your insured.
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31-05-2019, 19:08
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#24
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cruiser
Join Date: Jan 2017
Boat: Retired from CF
Posts: 13,317
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Re: Help find my boat...stolen
And empathy is a character trait, not something the recipient has to perform properly in order to "deserve"
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31-05-2019, 19:09
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#25
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Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2017
Location: Currently St. Petersburg Florida
Boat: Ovni 37 Sonate
Posts: 448
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Re: Help find my boat...stolen
"If you didn’t want to pay for insurance"
No insurance plan can replace the mans boat. What does that have anything to do with a man wanting HIS boat back??
News flash: Money is not real, its a public agreement of value that is handy for accounting.
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31-05-2019, 19:23
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#26
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Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Lakewood Ranch, FLORIDA
Boat: Alden 50, Sarasota, Florida
Posts: 3,614
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Re: Help find my boat...stolen
Quote:
Originally Posted by BenBowSirocco
"If you didn’t want to pay for insurance"
No insurance plan can replace the mans boat. What does that have anything to do with a man wanting HIS boat back??
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Because, if he received payment for the loss, it is no longer his boat.
And if he didn’t value it worth insuring, it’s a little late to value the loss. That may be unsympathetic but it is nevertheless true.
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31-05-2019, 19:28
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#27
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Moderator Emeritus
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: Jacksonville/ out cruising
Boat: Island Packet 38
Posts: 31,348
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Re: Help find my boat...stolen
Quote:
Originally Posted by S/V Illusion
And if he didn’t value it worth insuring, it’s a little late to value the loss. That may be unsympathetic but it is nevertheless true.
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That makes about as much sense as saying if you didn’t double chain lock your car to a pole, then it didn’t mean much to you, so it’s OK to steal it.
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31-05-2019, 19:32
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#28
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Registered User
Join Date: Nov 2017
Location: Currently St. Petersburg Florida
Boat: Ovni 37 Sonate
Posts: 448
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Re: Help find my boat...stolen
"And if he didn’t value it worth insuring, it’s a little late to value the loss."
I disagree.
Sometimes insurance does not make sense, but you can still miss your machine. Sentimental value. You have a picture of a classic car showing. I ride a 35 year old motorcycle as a daily commuter and its monetary value is very low, but I would be very sad if it was stolen and would certainly search it out aggressively.
I do understand that if he was paid for its loss the insurance company owns his boat.
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31-05-2019, 19:39
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#29
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Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2016
Posts: 128
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Re: Help find my boat...stolen
Quote:
Originally Posted by S/V Illusion
Because, if he received payment for the loss, it is no longer his boat.
And if he didn’t value it worth insuring, it’s a little late to value the loss. That may be unsympathetic but it is nevertheless true.
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That is just nonsense. Insurance beyond what is required for regulatory purposes is a business decision. It is a choice to accept a known and certain cost to reduce an uncertain but potentially larger cost (the insured risk). To insure or not is a business decision driven by premiums, deductibles, expected frequency and severity of loss and personal net worth. Regardless of that decision it is perfectly reasonable and rational to seek to avoid or mitigate the loss. Failing to empathise with that suggest a lack of human compassion.
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31-05-2019, 19:49
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#30
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Moderator Emeritus
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: Jacksonville/ out cruising
Boat: Island Packet 38
Posts: 31,348
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Help find my boat...stolen
Insurence can be a double edged sword.
I witnessed the Insurence company basically steal an old man’s Maule. He had owned it forever, and it was insured for what he had paid for it 30 yrs ago. He had a hard landing, Insurence showed up and wrote him a check for what it was insured for, and turned around and sold it for more, cause it was underinsured.
Then it’s entirely possible to have more in a 40 yr old boat than it can be insured for, then there is the very real cost of Insurence, some may not can afford it.
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