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Old 23-01-2020, 08:56   #1
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38' Offshore Fast Cruiser

38' Offshore Fast Cruiser 2009

Yard: Astilleros Aries, Buenos Aires (Argentina)
Year: 2009
Flag: Panamá
Length: 11.7mts (38’)
Beam: 3.3mts (11’)
Draft: 1.9mts (6’ 3)
Displacement: 4.000kgs (8800Lbs)
Material: PVC Sandwich with biaxial glass cloth and Epoxy resin. Carbon fibre rudder
Engine: Yanmar 3YM30, 30HP (650hours). Gori foldable/reversible 3 blade propeller
Tanks: 2X150l (40Gal) diesel tanks plus 70l (19Gal) day tank. 2X450l (120Gal) fresh water tanks (used as movable ballast)
Price: 98.000€
Lying: San Blas Islands/ Shelter Bay Marina (Panamá)


This offshore fast cruiser is for sale. Built in 2009 by Astilleros Aries in Buenos Aires (Argentina) with premium materials: hull, deck and structure built in a vacuum processed PVC sandwich with biaxial glass and Epoxy resin, carbon fiber rudder, King Marine rig with textile rigging, North Sails full cruising inventory. She was designed and built for offshore passages in mind, crewed by a couple with maximum safety (4 watertight bulkheads, 125º of Limited Positive Stability, 40% of the boat displacement in the keel, watertight main hatch, only 3 hull penetrations), great speed potential (daily runs between 170 and 215 miles, 21 knots top speed), autonomy (450lts of water, 370lts of diesel, with a motoring range above 1.000NM) and comfort while sailing and at anchor.


The boat is fitted with everything required for long offshore passages and liveabord, with the following (non exhaustive) inventory:


-Anchoring and mooring:
*1500W Qwick windlass
*Main anchor: 20kg Spade anchor with 50m chain + 50m rope line
*Secondary anchor: 10kg Fortress anchor with 15m chain and 20m rope line
*Spare anchors: 20kg Kobra and 8kg Foblight
*Mooring ropes and 6 fenders


-Sails:
*Full batten 2016 North Sails mainsail using Antal low friction track and cars, with lazy jacks and 2 automatic reefing lines
*Furling/hanked 2016 North Sails jib
*2009 North Sails staysail hanked on removable inner textile stay with Wichard turnbuckle.
*2009 North Sails orange hanked storm jib
*2009 North Sails Code Zero with antitorsion rope and furling system
*2009 North Sails asymmetric with martin braker dropping system from cockpit


-Electronics and safety:
*Autopilot Raymarine ST7001 with Jefa electric drive
*Emergency tiller pilot Simrad TP32
*Raymarine C60 Radar/Plotter accesible from cockpit and interior
*Tacktick wireless instruments: compass, speedo, GPS, depth and wind
*AIS-B ACR receiver/transmiter connected to Raymarine plotter
*MOB Raymarine emergency system
*Personal EPIRB
*Furuno Weatherfax
*Raymarine 240 VHF accesible from cockpit and interior
*JonBuoy MOB
*Plastimo lifering
*Jackstays
*4 person liferaft
*4 lifejackets and harnesses
*3 fire extinguishers
*First aid kit

-Comfort:
*Big Sprayhood which creates a sailing area from where the whole boat can be controlled
*Anchoring awning with rain catcher system
*Hauling awning
*Folding cockpit table (seats 9 people!) integrated in cockpit teak sole
*RIB tender garage at stern
*Two huge storage areas accesible from cockpit
*Cockpit and aft solarium cushions
*Eutectic fridge with first grade isolation and low consumption
*Two burner galley range and two 10kg aluminium gas bottles

-Various:
*Mainsail cover
*Jib cover
*Staysail cover
*Hypalon AB RIB 2.6m
*Yamaha 8HP 2 stroke outboard
*Tools and spares
*Blankets, galley equipment.
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Old 23-01-2020, 09:18   #2
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I have seen that boat here in the San Blas. Its very fast. Good luck selling, but I don't know why you are...
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I know this boat and it's owners. It is a remarkable 38' high performance cruising yacht created by a professional navigator on very high end maxi yachts who is also one of the world's top sailors. He knows his stuff and he created his ideal yacht in this boat.

As can be seen in the photos it is in "as new" condition (650hrs on the engine) and the advertised price makes it a steal. Now in Panama ready to go east or west.
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Old 24-01-2020, 05:30   #4
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I have seen that boat here in the San Blas. Its very fast. Good luck selling, but I don't know why you are...

Well, the only reason why we are selling 86 is because we are so busy sailing other boats that we hardly find time to spend on her. So I think time has arrived to find someone else to take care of and keep enjoying her.
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Old 24-01-2020, 05:33   #5
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I know this boat and it's owners. It is a remarkable 38' high performance cruising yacht created by a professional navigator on very high end maxi yachts who is also one of the world's top sailors. He knows his stuff and he created his ideal yacht in this boat.

As can be seen in the photos it is in "as new" condition (650hrs on the engine) and the advertised price makes it a steal. Now in Panama ready to go east or west.

Thank you for your nice words Fred! And great to see Wings in such a great shape, wining races as usual. Big hug
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Old 24-01-2020, 06:03   #6
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Beautiful boat. Sounds like a good deal if it is what is says it is.

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Old 24-01-2020, 10:51   #7
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The nicest boat I have seen in a Looooong time.
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Old 24-01-2020, 17:59   #8
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Thank you for your nice comments Flee 27 and Scaramanga F25, they make me proud!
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Old 24-01-2020, 18:03   #9
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38' Offshore Fast Cruiser 2009

Yard: Astilleros Aries, Buenos Aires (Argentina)
Year: 2009
Flag: Panamá
Length: 11.7mts (38’)
Beam: 3.3mts (11’)
Draft: 1.9mts (6’ 3)
Displacement: 4.000kgs (8800Lbs)
Material: PVC Sandwich with biaxial glass cloth and Epoxy resin. Carbon fibre rudder
Engine: Yanmar 3YM30, 30HP (650hours). Gori foldable/reversible 3 blade propeller
Tanks: 2X150l (40Gal) diesel tanks plus 70l (19Gal) day tank. 2X450l (120Gal) fresh water tanks (used as movable ballast)
Price: 98.000€
Lying: San Blas Islands/ Shelter Bay Marina (Panamá)


This offshore fast cruiser is for sale. Built in 2009 by Astilleros Aries in Buenos Aires (Argentina) with premium materials: hull, deck and structure built in a vacuum processed PVC sandwich with biaxial glass and Epoxy resin, carbon fiber rudder, King Marine rig with textile rigging, North Sails full cruising inventory. She was designed and built for offshore passages in mind, crewed by a couple with maximum safety (4 watertight bulkheads, 125º of Limited Positive Stability, 40% of the boat displacement in the keel, watertight main hatch, only 3 hull penetrations), great speed potential (daily runs between 170 and 215 miles, 21 knots top speed), autonomy (450lts of water, 370lts of diesel, with a motoring range above 1.000NM) and comfort while sailing and at anchor.


The boat is fitted with everything required for long offshore passages and liveabord, with the following (non exhaustive) inventory:


-Anchoring and mooring:
*1500W Qwick windlass
*Main anchor: 20kg Spade anchor with 50m chain + 50m rope line
*Secondary anchor: 10kg Fortress anchor with 15m chain and 20m rope line
*Spare anchors: 20kg Kobra and 8kg Foblight
*Mooring ropes and 6 fenders


-Sails:
*Full batten 2016 North Sails mainsail using Antal low friction track and cars, with lazy jacks and 2 automatic reefing lines
*Furling/hanked 2016 North Sails jib
*2009 North Sails staysail hanked on removable inner textile stay with Wichard turnbuckle.
*2009 North Sails orange hanked storm jib
*2009 North Sails Code Zero with antitorsion rope and furling system
*2009 North Sails asymmetric with martin braker dropping system from cockpit


-Electronics and safety:
*Autopilot Raymarine ST7001 with Jefa electric drive
*Emergency tiller pilot Simrad TP32
*Raymarine C60 Radar/Plotter accesible from cockpit and interior
*Tacktick wireless instruments: compass, speedo, GPS, depth and wind
*AIS-B ACR receiver/transmiter connected to Raymarine plotter
*MOB Raymarine emergency system
*Personal EPIRB
*Furuno Weatherfax
*Raymarine 240 VHF accesible from cockpit and interior
*JonBuoy MOB
*Plastimo lifering
*Jackstays
*4 person liferaft
*4 lifejackets and harnesses
*3 fire extinguishers
*First aid kit

-Comfort:
*Big Sprayhood which creates a sailing area from where the whole boat can be controlled
*Anchoring awning with rain catcher system
*Hauling awning
*Folding cockpit table (seats 9 people!) integrated in cockpit teak sole
*RIB tender garage at stern
*Two huge storage areas accesible from cockpit
*Cockpit and aft solarium cushions
*Eutectic fridge with first grade isolation and low consumption
*Two burner galley range and two 10kg aluminium gas bottles

-Various:
*Mainsail cover
*Jib cover
*Staysail cover
*Hypalon AB RIB 2.6m
*Yamaha 8HP 2 stroke outboard
*Tools and spares
*Blankets, galley equipment.


Very nice boat ...needs a very special owner
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Old 25-01-2020, 12:39   #10
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Re: 38' Offshore Fast Cruiser

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Old 26-01-2020, 05:50   #11
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I attach some drawings of the boat, I hope they are in a format that allows good visualization.
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At Last got this thing to work! Hi I am Michael Pope from Vancouver I am seriously interested in your boat --It is exactly My Kinda Yacht. I need a boat long time sailor Deliveries Ton Classes 505s etc
Questions (1) form and materials of Keel please We have a lot of Hard rocks around here! (2) Do you have a cradle in Panama that would facilitate shipping as Deck cargo to Seattle or Vancouver B.C.
The boat looks like a light wind rocket ( mean wind speed in English bay
Race cources is only 6 mph ?
We have numerous problems here with French Imported Boats with Keel - Hull joints after nudging rocky Bottoms say no more ! ??

If you have already sold the boat was it a one off or could I order a copy?

My E Mail is popemichael938@gmail .com We need to talk
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Old 26-01-2020, 13:15   #13
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Looks great: Looks like a good substantial stub to take grounding loads .
hope she has Monel bolts?
Holding tank for Toilet??
Looks like she has every thing. Have a very busy month end this week but may be able to give you a $ response by the February 7th. What are my options re moving her.
or leaving her where she is till spring or early summer. The trip up the coast can be unpleasant at this time of year and I will not be available. till May probably. I used to build boats and had a rigging company here but am getting old for winter deliveries my blood is thin I feel the cold. Thank you I do not have your name . I will contact you again How? Phone or Email this rout not secure Thanks Michael
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Old 27-01-2020, 06:03   #14
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Hi Michael,
Will send you my contact details in a private message, but the keel is steel in the top and lead in the bulb. Also there is a keel sump built into the hull to make sure any water inside the boat stays in that sump, a bit like some of the J-boats have in their hull to keel joints. There was a lot of effort put into that keel sump as it complicated both the engineering and the building (both the designer and the builder tried to convince me to forget about it and go for a normal keel joint, but I insisted and have been extremely happy about my decision since then). Can´t provide you with an assessment on how well she would cope with grounding as we have never hit anything in 10 years of sailing (luckily!) but she has been grounded at anchor a couple of times (last one two years ago in San Blas, over a sand bank) and no cracks have shown anywhere around the keel.
The keel and keel sump was engineered to take full grounding at 8kts boatspeed without any structural damage, but as I say that has not been tested in real life!
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Hi Michael,
Will send you my contact details in a private message, but the keel is steel in the top and lead in the bulb. Also there is a keel sump built into the hull to make sure any water inside the boat stays in that sump, a bit like some of the J-boats have in their hull to keel joints. There was a lot of effort put into that keel sump as it complicated both the engineering and the building (both the designer and the builder tried to convince me to forget about it and go for a normal keel joint, but I insisted and have been extremely happy about my decision since then). Can´t provide you with an assessment on how well she would cope with grounding as we have never hit anything in 10 years of sailing (luckily!) but she has been grounded at anchor a couple of times (last one two years ago in San Blas, over a sand bank) and no cracks have shown anywhere around the keel.
The keel and keel sump was engineered to take full grounding at 8kts boatspeed without any structural damage, but as I say that has not been tested in real life!

It cracks me up when I see the Term ..Martin Breaker
Very few folks know what it is

Also ...I’m curious

That s a 4 ton boat ..when sailing..in full cruise mode..what is the displacement ...5 ton ?
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