For Sale: 38' Offshore Fast Cruiser

[Chotu]

Amazing boat!!! Wow!

This will not last long on the market and will be a wise purchase for anyone.

[Yacht86]

5.5 tons was the designed cruising displacement (1.5 tons of load carrying capacity) but when looking at hos she floats now with full water, diesel, crew, RIB and 10 years of crusing gear I think she might be more in the 5.8 tons!!

[slug]

Originally Posted by Yacht86

5.5 tons was the designed cruising displacement (1.5 tons of load carrying capacity) but when looking at hos she floats now with full water, diesel, crew, RIB and 10 years of crusing gear I think she might be more in the 5.8 tons!!

It’s challenging to cruise a light displacement boat.. always chopping tooth brushes in half to save weight ....

And what is a hank on , furling headsail sail ? What system

Standing rigging is future fibers ?

[Yacht86]

Hi Slug, we wanted to have the ability to drop the jib when at anchor and still furl it away (no reefing: all in or all out) when sailing so we went for a system made by Bartels that we copied from the classic boats such as the 8m, 6m and Dragon Classes. The whole forestay is connected to the rig through a swivel and the head of the jib is also hoisted into a swivel that locks into a groove on top of the forestay so when the furler (under deck) is pulled the bottom part of the forestay turns and transmit the torsion to the top of the forestay, furling the jib from the bottom and top.

This system was specified 11 years ago; since then many brands have come with similar or improved solutions (UBI MAIOR Italia) so even superyachts are nowadays using such a system.

[Yacht86]

Standing rigging is Dynex Dux, built by Mike Strongrope from Sidney, Australia. At the time we were buiding the boat textil rigging suppliers such as Future Fibers were only supplied PBO or Kevlar based products that needed to be destructive tested every few years and replaced very often. Our experience with the Dynex Dux is it is obviously more stretchy than sophisticated rigging materials such as carbon, PBO or Kevlar, but good enough for cruising. In our case we removed some 35kg out of the rig, which was exactly what we would have saved if we had gone for a carbon tube. But the Dynex rigging was about the same price of the wire rigging and the Carbon mast was 5 times the price of our aluminum rig so we decided for the lower tech/longer durability option.

[slug]

Originally Posted by Yacht86

Hi Slug, we wanted to have the ability to drop the jib when at anchor and still furl it away (no reefing: all in or all out) when sailing so we went for a system made by Bartels that we copied from the classic boats such as the 8m, 6m and Dragon Classes. The whole forestay is connected to the rig through a swivel and the head of the jib is also hoisted into a swivel that locks into a groove on top of the forestay so when the furler (under deck) is pulled the bottom part of the forestay turns and transmit the torsion to the top of the forestay, furling the jib from the bottom and top.

This system was specified 11 years ago; since then many brands have come with similar or improved solutions (UBI MAIOR Italia) so even superyachts are nowadays using such a system.

I’ve seen the Italian stuff..looks good ..but I have no experience

Italians produce beautiful marine equipment

My experience with rod head stays..naked stay.... piston hanks...is that it’s prone to spinnaker wrap...typically we sailed under spi with the piston hanked jib hoisted to Guard against wrap

Seems a furled headsail is resistant to spi wrap

Your mast geometry ..your two forward Genoa halyards are side by side...or over under
Spi halyards thru spectacles ?
Spipole..whisker pole for headsails ?
Do you have two aft facing halyards ?

[Yacht86]

Your mast geometry ..your two forward Genoa halyards are side by side...or over under

Only 1 genoa halyard, as only one genoa on board; in 20kts TWS upwind we frurl or drop and go with the staysail.


Spi halyards thru spectacles ?
Yes, although again only one used for the kite; the second one is committed to the Code0 and is in a 2:1 halyard



Spipole..whisker pole for headsails ?
Nope; kite until 20kts TWS (or even 23 some times) and above that Code 0. Not super efficient for doing VMG downwind in strong winds, but still good enough to have hit 215 miles towards destination in a noon to noon log, three times, despite of some gybing involved in the process. Even small waves help keeping her in the plane and move apparent slightly forward, allowing for decent angles even without a pole.


Do you have two aft facing halyards ?

Nope, just one, the mainsail halyard, in a 2:1 setup to remove compression and load from the halyard. The lazy jacks are "structural" though, engineered to support the load of the boom and sail both sailing and at anchor.

[rgranger]

Originally Posted by wingssail

...and the advertised price makes it a steal.

I could not find the price...(?)

[Scaramanga F25]

on the list first post. 98,000 Euros. A little over US$ 100,000.oo

[sy_gilana]

Hi, I see you're back in Shelter Bay Marina, Most people do it overnight, how long did it take you?

[Yacht86]

Left at 7:00AM and were docking in Shelter by 5:00PM, so around 10 hours. Unfortunately we broke a shackle of the kite sheet and had to finish the trip without the kite, I bet we could have been 30/45 minutes faster!

[sy_gilana]

You racers....sheesh...thats 75 miles!