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Old 22-08-2019, 11:23   #106
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1st choice: Windpilot - More so from the experience of Abhilash and because all of his wind vane ss survived upright after rolling over.

2nd choice: Hydrovane - It provides the option for emergency rudder which is required in GGR rules.

Might try Aries out too before I take a final call.

Also depends on what steering system I stick with- original wheel or move to a tiller.
If you are thinking of a pendulum servo vane, a tiller is the best steering system. You don't have the drag of the wheel steering system which could effect lighter air performance and greater range of steering displacement than you can get with a wheel drum. I'm in favor of tillers in any case, dead simple and direct input with virtually nothing to fail and nothing hidden away that would service and repairs difficult.

Have done a TransPac with WindPilot Pacific Plus auxiliary rudder vane and it worked well. Passage was almost exclusively DDW in moderate conditions and vane steered well. Don't think it was as sharp as a straight Pendulum Servo Vane but that's a bit of a subjective opinion. Like the PS vane providing the muscle to steer the Aux. rudder with the WPP Plus. Just seems it would be more responsive and powerful especially in lighter conditions than the strictly air driven HydroVane.
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Old 22-08-2019, 13:33   #108
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Re: 32-36 ft full keel boat for Golden Globe Race

Thanks for the input.

So I exchanged a few emails with Peter from WindPilot and he has decided not to equip any GGR boats with his WindVane due to the fiasco from last time with Istvan.

So its either going to be the Hydrovane or an Aries. Aries being my preference among the two if I change to a tiller steering(which most likely is going to happen).

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If you are thinking of a pendulum servo vane, a tiller is the best steering system. You don't have the drag of the wheel steering system which could effect lighter air performance and greater range of steering displacement than you can get with a wheel drum. I'm in favor of tillers in any case, dead simple and direct input with virtually nothing to fail and nothing hidden away that would service and repairs difficult.

Have done a TransPac with WindPilot Pacific Plus auxiliary rudder vane and it worked well. Passage was almost exclusively DDW in moderate conditions and vane steered well. Don't think it was as sharp as a straight Pendulum Servo Vane but that's a bit of a subjective opinion. Like the PS vane providing the muscle to steer the Aux. rudder with the WPP Plus. Just seems it would be more responsive and powerful especially in lighter conditions than the strictly air driven HydroVane.
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And it's already upside down, ready for the southern ocean.
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And it's already upside down, ready for the southern ocean.
To be clearer: I was referring to the image of the Cape George, posted by fatherchronica, which appeared upside down in my browser.

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The preapproved design list is:

Westsail 32 • Tradewind 35 • Saga 34 • Saltram 36 • Vancouver 32 & 34 • OE 32 • Eric (sister ship to Suhaili) • Aries 32 • Baba 35 • Biscay 36 • Bowman 36 • Cape Dory 36 • Nicholson 32 MKX-XI • Rustler 36, Endurance 35, Gaia 36, Hans Christian 33T, Tashiba 36, Cabo Rico 34, Hinckley Pilot 35, Lello 34, Gale Force 34.


Have you ranked these designs by displacement? I think well over 50% of these boats are too heavy to be competitive.
SURVIVING 70' seas and hurricane force winds for weeks on end is really the goal, displacement and boat performance are really irrelevant.
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1st choice: Windpilot - More so from the experience of Abhilash and because all of his wind vane ss survived upright after rolling over.

2nd choice: Hydrovane - It provides the option for emergency rudder which is required in GGR rules.

Might try Aries out too before I take a final call.

Also depends on what steering system I stick with- original wheel or move to a tiller.
Wasn't Hydrovane the only one to come through the race without major failures?
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To be clearer: I was referring to the image of the Cape George, posted by fatherchronica, which appeared upside down in my browser.

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Wasn't Hydrovane the only one to come through the race without major failures?
WindPilot did too. The ones that didn't were down to user error as claimed by WindPilot on their blogs. It's worth a read: https://windpilot.com/blog/en/golden...ndvane-report/

1st Place: JLVDH Hydrovane
2nd Place: Mark Slats Aries
3rd: Uku Hydrovane
4th: Istvan WindPilot (He had a combination of steering and vane issues as he had rebuilt his steering- long story that no one knows the end of)
5th: Tapio WindPilot

JLVDH had lashed his hydrovane a lot as you can see in his pictures and some creative ways to make it last.

At a second look, I am going with the Hydrovane. 1. Because they survived 2. Canadian brand 3. I have been talking with them and I am extremely satisfied with their responses and I believe they will provide great support.

My decision for WindPilot was the suggestion from my mentor- Abhilash. He capsized and the only thing that survived on deck was his WindPilot.
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