Yet Another Fee Hike in Oz

[Jim Cate]

Originally Posted by Wrong

Well, your profile doesn't say where you're from, so your comment is either self effacement or meant as a jab at 'Yanks'. Not going to assume either way. But, this 'Yank' would gladly square off against you, Australian or otherwise to test our comparative knowledge of Australian politics, issues, options and which people are the important players.

Just saying.

WTF??? Turn your sensitivity down a notch, mate. I know squat about the realities of Aussie (or American) politics, and don't presume to judge nor to challenge anyone's views on such. I would not be surprised to find that you knew more about the subjects you mention... the average fence post knows those things better than I do, and perhaps cares more as well. Not my bag...

But for the record, I am a Yank. I have spent much of my time for the past 20 odd years sailing in and out of Oz, and have come to be very fond of the place and its people. Some of them know me well enough to tease me about the strange things Yanks do and believe. I know some of them well enough to do the same back at them. Mostly we remain friends and don't challenge each other about socio-political issues.

But cricket is just plain silly...

Jim

[Mirage Gecko]

Jim
Silly compared to????

[Jim Cate]

Originally Posted by Mirage Gecko

Jim
Silly compared to????

Why, compared to a real game like baseball (ducks and runs for cover...)

In truth, I have little interest in sports as performed by others, ie spectator sports, no matter what country I am in. Used to play industrial league basketball in the winter and softball in the summer, but then cruising got in the way! (Oh, and I got too damn old for such stuff)!

Jim

[downunder]

Originally Posted by boat_alexandra

Some people just don't have the money. So it's ok for them to sail to australia not pay any fees, bring all sorts of exotic animals like cats toads rabbits etc.. Hunt exotic species to extinction (like tasmanian tiger and natives) then make up a bunch of rules saying it's illegal to visit australia if you don't have enough money to pay them?

Further it is to do things they shouldn't be doing anyway. They aren't taking care of the environment there at all. Latest reports show australians per capita are the worst polluters on the planet.

They grow only the same type of fruit tree over hectares of land. If they would plant say 30-40 different types of fruit trees per hectare, as well as all sorts of other plants, with many species per hectare, it wouldn't be vulnerable to introduced pests and fungus and would also be more productive and the fruit would taste better and not require pesticides. They wouldn't need to be charging fees or worry about quarentine. At least that's how they grow food in Vanuatu, but apparently in Australia they are too stubborn and for the most part greedy.

Sounds like sour grapes (a fruit) to me. Does Australia produce commercial fruit any different from the USA. If USA produced fruit as it was done in Vanuatu then USA would not be able to supply fruit to the millions in the cities. We in Australia even get fruit out of season from the USA.

You are welcome to stay out of Australia with your views that we are destroying our environment. Why would you want to visit. presumably you are happy with the protection of the environment and species in your own country and the countries you have been a guest of and are now visiting.

Unfortunately quarentine costs.

[BandB]

Originally Posted by Wrong

Well, your profile doesn't say where you're from, so your comment is either self effacement or meant as a jab at 'Yanks'. Not going to assume either way.

So why did you assume he meant it as a jab without knowing? I do know, but going to keep it a secret.

[El Pinguino]

Originally Posted by Jim Cate

But for the record, I am a Yank. I have spent much of my time for the past 20 odd years sailing in and out of Oz, ...

Jim

Struth Jimbo,
You must have been up the bush too long .. not even your own can recognize you anymore....

I reckon we should nominate you for the Prime Minister's XI ... you couldn't do any worse than the nongs did this year

Signed,
your cobber,
El Pinguino Negro

[chala]

Originally Posted by boat_alexandra

They aren't taking care of the environment there at all.

Yes they do, they charge fee.

Now that Australian cricket is a sort of Russian roulette it may attrackt more interest.

[Adelie]

Originally Posted by Mirage Gecko

Is $380 really a lot of money in the total $ scheme of sailing a fully equipped yacht to Australia from another country?

For folks sailing a $20k boat and living on $8-10k/yr, yeah, it really is a lot of money.

[Wrong]

Originally Posted by BandB

So why did you assume he meant it as a jab without knowing? I do know, but going to keep it a secret.

The operative word is "EITHER". Per Jim, it's a case of self effacement not a jab aimed at other Yanks. I am satisfied with the clarification. Had he been a Brit it would have been another thing.

Shucks, I challenge any Yank that's spent years in Austrailia to come away without regularly using lines like 'good on ya', 'all good', g'day and more for the remainder of their lives. Visiting Australia can be a transformative experience and in a few ways I came away transformed. Sorta like an American spending years in Canada and returning home a little less than the 'in your face' kind of person he or she was before going.

[SimonV]

Cricket. . A game played over a number of days 1 to 5 and at the finish each team can have completely different scores and can be called a draw.!!!!!

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[Wotname]

Originally Posted by SimonV

Cricket. . A game played over a number of days 1 to 5 and at the finish each team can have completely different scores and can be called a draw.!!!!!

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And have to do the whole thing again 4 more times before one country just might be considered better at the game than the other - on paper at least; the citizens of the respective countries never consider they are not the best at this sport game unless of course, they are Kiwis...


I concede they are marginally better at ruby.

[bobnlesley]

To continue with the thread hijack:

The very best thing about Australian politics is their Parliament Building; it's sort of built into the ground with a grass roof, so the electorate/voters can walk up the grassy hill and effectively stand over their politicians heads.

Regarding the cricket confusion, I can probably answer most queries and questions that those from uncivilised countries might have, excluding obviously the Duckworth-Lewis rules as they apply to rain-effected one day matches; not even professional cricketers understand those, indeed I'm not altogether convinced that Messrs Duckworth and Lewis understand them in full!

Oh, the other great winner for Aussie politics: Losing a Prime Minister to drowning when he was lost swimming off a beach and then in memorial, naming a swimming pool after him: You've gotta love that sense of humour!

[El Pinguino]

Originally Posted by bobnlesley

Oh, the other great winner for Aussie politics: Losing a Prime Minister to drowning when he was lost swimming off a beach and then in memorial, naming a swimming pool after him: You've gotta love that sense of humour!

He didn't drown...he was taken by a crocodile while swimming out to a chinese submarine.

[Wotname]

Originally Posted by El Pinguino

He didn't drown...he was taken by a crocodile while swimming out to a chinese submarine.

Nah, it was a Great White which the Chinese sub immediately tried to torpedo however it failed (no surprise there) and ended up first on the beach and then was whisked away by ASIO or somesuch.

For some reason or another, this information was either suppressed or perhaps it was simply not reported 'cause it happened on a public holiday when the rest of the country was watching cricket.