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09-09-2018, 10:08
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Registered User
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: New England
Posts: 356
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Re: Preparation Tips for Hurricanes and Storms
Steadman, you are CF's go to guy for timely posts! Let me use this post to personally Thank You for your contributions to CF since you joined. I read more than I post on CF, but am an 'active reader' , as these days I tend to use a tablet to read vs the old desktop which was easier to type on a real keyboard.
Might I add that folks actually cruising keep a 'cellphone rolladex' of CF members contact info, like mine. So that in the event that they cruise by they have a 'local' to reach out to if need be. Hurricane season on the East Coast is a good example.
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09-09-2018, 10:15
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Marine Service Provider
Join Date: Jul 2014
Posts: 6,103
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Re: Preparation Tips for Hurricanes and Storms
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Originally Posted by Clamdigger
Steadman, you are CF's go to guy for timely posts! Let me use this post to personally Thank You for your contributions to CF since you joined. I read more than I post on CF, but am an 'active reader' , as these days I tend to use a tablet to read vs the old desktop which was easier to type on a real keyboard.
Might I add that folks actually cruising keep a 'cellphone rolladex' of CF members contact info, like mine. So that in the event that they cruise by they have a 'local' to reach out to if need be. Hurricane season on the East Coast is a good example.
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Howdy Clamdigger!
Thanks for the positive comment. I truly appreciate it.
And I appreciate the kind offer you made in another thread to help another CF member with some local knowledge on anchorages and mooring for storms that may hit your location.
Your suggestion is a good one too.
If I am sailing to your area in the future, I will put out a shout and perhaps we can have a CF meetup too. I would like to meet more CF members as I visit ports. I have done so before and it was nice to place a face to a name.
Fair Winds!
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09-09-2018, 10:59
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Registered User
Join Date: Jan 2017
Location: Everywhere
Boat: Colegate 26
Posts: 1,153
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Re: Preparation Tips for Hurricanes and Storms
Should spare halyards be setup as backup stays or clipped to the base of the mast or removed completely?
We are in New Bern and currently expecting winds of 25 kts and gusts to 60 kts.
So far we've removed the helm enclosure and the cockpit enclosure, main, stack-pack, and lowered the boom to the traveler. Need to get the jib down when the breeze lets up in the next couple days.
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09-09-2018, 11:09
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#5
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Marine Service Provider
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: St. Petersburg, FL
Boat: Retired Delivery Capt
Posts: 3,684
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Re: Preparation Tips for Hurricanes and Storms
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Originally Posted by LoudMusic
Should spare halyards be setup as backup stays or clipped to the base of the mast or removed completely?
We are in New Bern and currently expecting winds of 25 kts and gusts to 60 kts.
So far we've removed the helm enclosure and the cockpit enclosure, main, stack-pack, and lowered the boom to the traveler. Need to get the jib down when the breeze lets up in the next couple days.
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Having prepped boats for other folks as well as my own, a few tips.
1- make sure insurance is paid
2- strip all canvas. On the FP-s you could leave the bag on the boom, but I would lash the !@# out of it.
3- take the jib off!
3-Spare halyards that come back down internally can be tied off to a cleat or stanchion and tightened
4- Spare halyards that come back down externally should have both ends run to a cleat or stanchion.
5- confirm insurance is paid.
6- double key lines. If you tie up stern-too double at least one spring so she doesn't go under the dock. I re-tie my boat so her bow is about 2' into the fairway to allow more room. After the storm I re-tie her before anyone can get antsy.
7- close all seacocks
8- did you pay the insurance?
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09-09-2018, 11:32
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Moderator Emeritus
Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: Jacksonville/ out cruising
Boat: Island Packet 38
Posts: 31,351
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Re: Preparation Tips for Hurricanes and Storms
If in a marina put fenders out, cause you never know.
Dinghy is of course removed, I fill my RIB with water.
Halyards I just attach to stanchion bases as usual, not much windage in a rope.
I leave my panels up, but probably best to remove. Dinghy motor on the rail and everything else removed from the deck, fuel cans etc.
I stay aboard if I can evacuate, cause I believe if your aboard and a line chafes though, you can do something about it, or maybe fend off a neighbors boat etc.
I worry about them more than mine, last year the neighbor knew Irma was coming and did absolutely nothing at all to prepare.
He got a new sailcover and Bimini from Insurence, nice guy, but that ticked me off.
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09-09-2018, 11:51
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#7
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Registered User
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: New England
Posts: 356
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Re: Preparation Tips for Hurricanes and Storms
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Originally Posted by Steadman Uhlich
Howdy Clamdigger!
Thanks for the positive comment. I truly appreciate it.
And I appreciate the kind offer you made in another thread to help another CF member with some local knowledge on anchorages and mooring for storms that may hit your location.
Your suggestion is a good one too.
If I am sailing to your area in the future, I will put out a shout and perhaps we can have a CF meetup too. I would like to meet more CF members as I visit ports. I have done so before and it was nice to place a face to a name.
Fair Winds!
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Steadmen, I would really enjoy a CF meetup in my area anytime! I am always available to fellow cruisers, as a matter of fact the laundry in walking distance has my notecard up there for the past 12 years inviting any cruisers to call me if they need assistance while in port. I have met in excess of 150 folks from that alone😀 My friend owns the laudry lol!
You are always welcome any time of the year, evenif you need to rack out on the futon for a few days while in transit to your next ride. Train station directly to Newark Airport/NYC is 15 minute ride from the front door, 15 minutes to the harbor in other direction.
You deserve a CF award,imo, for being one of the most helpful members on CF. Say, a nice dinner out when we do finely meetup. You come across as a genuinely nice guy that is an excellent crew member, just wish I still had my cruising boat to have finished a circu!navigation with you as crew!
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09-09-2018, 12:18
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Marine Service Provider
Join Date: Jul 2014
Posts: 6,103
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Re: Preparation Tips for Hurricanes and Storms
Saw this today...
Stormy Weather Ahead.
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09-09-2018, 15:09
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Registered User
Join Date: Jan 2017
Location: Everywhere
Boat: Colegate 26
Posts: 1,153
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Re: Preparation Tips for Hurricanes and Storms
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Originally Posted by Snore
Having prepped boats for other folks as well as my own, a few tips.
1- make sure insurance is paid
2- strip all canvas. On the FP-s you could leave the bag on the boom, but I would lash the !@# out of it.
3- take the jib off!
3-Spare halyards that come back down internally can be tied off to a cleat or stanchion and tightened
4- Spare halyards that come back down externally should have both ends run to a cleat or stanchion.
5- confirm insurance is paid.
6- double key lines. If you tie up stern-too double at least one spring so she doesn't go under the dock. I re-tie my boat so her bow is about 2' into the fairway to allow more room. After the storm I re-tie her before anyone can get antsy.
7- close all seacocks
8- did you pay the insurance?
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Insurance is paid, all sails removed, all canvas removed, bimini/dodger stainless removed, all cushions removed.
I have the boom lift and main haylard on the clew-end of the boom, as low as it will go, and pulled to one side with another line. Insurance is paid.
I have the spinnaker halyard attached to starboard forward cleat and pulled taunt, and the jib halyard pulled to the cross bar next to the forestay and pulled taunt.
Insurance is paid.
On Thursday morning I'll close the non-bilge-pump seacocks, check with any neighbors if they need lines or fenders, load anyone in the Jeep that needs a ride, and head for the hills!
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09-09-2018, 15:20
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Marine Service Provider
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: St. Petersburg, FL
Boat: Retired Delivery Capt
Posts: 3,684
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Re: Preparation Tips for Hurricanes and Storms
Quote:
Originally Posted by LoudMusic
Insurance is paid, all sails removed, all canvas removed, bimini/dodger stainless removed, all cushions removed.
I have the boom lift and main haylard on the clew-end of the boom, as low as it will go, and pulled to one side with another line. Insurance is paid.
I have the spinnaker halyard attached to starboard forward cleat and pulled taunt, and the jib halyard pulled to the cross bar next to the forestay and pulled taunt.
Insurance is paid.
On Thursday morning I'll close the non-bilge-pump seacocks, check with any neighbors if they need lines or fenders, load anyone in the Jeep that needs a ride, and head for the hills!
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Forgot one thing——— PRAY
Good luck
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09-09-2018, 15:22
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Registered User
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: On a boat
Boat: 1987 Cabo Rico 38 #117 (sold) & 2008 Manta 42 #124
Posts: 4,172
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Re: Preparation Tips for Hurricanes and Storms
annnnnd don't trust old dock lines - even if they "look good". We ended up doubling up both sets of lines for Irma and buying new lines that were much large diameter. A few of the four-year old dock lines snapped.
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09-09-2018, 16:58
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Senior Cruiser
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Between Caribbean and Canada
Boat: Murray 33-Chouette & Pape Steelmaid-44-Safara-both steel cutters
Posts: 8,508
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Re: Preparation Tips for Hurricanes and Storms
Last year we went through Nanny Cay. They had a large dry yard, I didn’t go through it, but looking at it from afar I’d guess maybe half the boats remained standing, a quarter fell over, and another quarter still standing lost their masts. The number of lost masts suprised me.
I obviously don’t know the circumstances, perhaps they had furled head sails, perhaps they were lightly stayed rigs. But it would seem prudent to keep that loss in mind and try to strategize against such a loss. Not entirely sure how one would do that.
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09-09-2018, 17:31
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Registered User
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Caribbean live aboard
Boat: Camper & Nicholson58 Ketch - ROXY Traverse City, Michigan No.668283
Posts: 6,356
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Re: Preparation Tips for Hurricanes and Storms
It’s certainly not always possible but we noted in the Caribbean last season that one needed only to recognize your boat was in the storm path and sail preferably south of the track at least 25 miles to be in easily survivable conditions. This does not take but about half a day. With two days warning you can be more than 150 miles away. Barbuda was wiped out, Antigua was fine. We also note that finding a hole in the mangroves is most unlikely due to the numbers of local boats that will be way ahead of you. We do not stay with the boat for hurricane season so the boat gets pampered in Chaguaramos, Trinidad. The best preparation is to get out of the zone, otherwise, be prepared to move well in advance of the predicted track.
We toughen out two hurricanes in 2016 while moving south along the east coast. The worst was in Newport in great protection with winds hitting 48 knots, 175 feet of chain in 11 feet of depth. The eye moved up the coast well to sea fortunately. I can’t imagine riding out a full straight on hit if I could otherwise get away.
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10-09-2018, 09:26
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Registered User
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Cruising Mexico
Boat: Norseman 400
Posts: 434
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Re: Preparation Tips for Hurricanes and Storms
Quote:
Originally Posted by Snore
7- close all seacocks
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Cruisers Forum was a true boat-saver for us during our first ever hurricane prep. (Hurricane Newton 2015) Thanks for that, everyone!
We don't close all seacocks. We leave the seacocks open for the cockpit drains (the rains has to go somewhere) and the bilge pump.
Also, some engine exhausts don't have seacocks because they are above the water line. Find a way to prevent water from getting into your exhaust. I may save your engine from water intrusion in really rough sea surge.
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