Changes in Tropical Cyclone Intensity & Track

[boatman61]

Originally Posted by GordMay

Maybe, in some cases, more than others.

Pride cometh before the fall..

[hpeer]

Originally Posted by GordMay

I think hpeer is on to something!
ie: Euthanize all the sick people, and illness will disappear.
A final solution.

I never said anything like that.

[boatman61]

Originally Posted by hpeer

I never said anything like that.

His reality shines through when it hasn't been Googled..

[GordMay]

Originally Posted by hpeer

I never said anything like that.

No, I did.
I.e. is the abbreviation for the Latin phrase “id est”, which translates to English as “that is to say”, or “in other words”.

[SuW]

Originally Posted by boatman61

Pride cometh before the fall..

Christ, there's gotta be a sin for misquoting the Bible in Comic Sans!

"Pride goeth before destruction, and an haughty spirit before a fall."

[hpeer]

Originally Posted by GordMay

No, I did.
I.e. is the abbreviation for the Latin phrase “id est”, which translates to English as “that is to say”, or “in other words”.

Since you have made it clear it is YOUR idea and not mine you can say what you want.

[boatman61]

Originally Posted by SuW

Christ, there's gotta be a sin for misquoting the Bible in Comic Sans!

"Pride goeth before destruction, and an haughty spirit before a fall."

The Bible.??? not my type of fiction mate..
Which of the many versions are you going by..
English Versions of the Bible

[Don C L]

Originally Posted by Reefmagnet

Perhaps the Earth is warming faster than it's cooling


Would explain record highs and record lows in the temperature records.

Perhaps look to the jet stream and changes in albedo for the clues to record highs and lows.
A slowed, wandering, or stalled, jet stream makes things much harder to foresee.
http://www.csun.edu/~vcmth00m/EBM.pdf

and actually, this paper is better to start with:
https://iopscience.iop.org/article/1...0/1/014005/pdf

This quote is informative, and, considering it was written in 2015, an apparently valid conclusion:
"Moreover, the frequency of days with high-amplitude jet-stream configurations has increased during recent years. These high-amplitude patterns are known to produce
persistent weather patterns that can lead to extreme weather events."

[jimbunyard]

Originally Posted by GordMay

...Here’s an interesting discussion, from both sides of the question:
“American Drugs in Egyptian Mummies” ~ by S. A. Wells
➥ American Drugs in Egyptian Mummies

Doesn't seem to me to be much "from both sides of the question"; quite the opposite, the article seems to champion an idea that, with even a little circumspection, doesn't carry much weight.

For a more balanced perspective, though one with a more proper scientific scepticism, have a look at this discussion.


https://web.archive.org/web/20140821...article&sid=45

A brief exerpt;

"To summarise there are a number of explanations which may account for the identification of cocaine, THC and nicotine in Egyptian mummies. The identification of THC is not considered unusual due to the local prevalence of C. sativa in the Middle East. In addition we know that the Egyptians utilised hemp to make ropes and THC can also be produced by reactions that occur when burning incense.

The presence of nicotine can be accounted for, as nicotine is present in small amounts in many plants commonly used as food. It is therefore fairly common for human remains to contain residual amounts of nicotine. The use of tobacco based insecticide sprays during the nineteenth century may account for the discovery of tobacco leaves in the mummy of Ramses II as well as for the identification of higher levels of nicotine in mummies that have been kept in museums over long periods of time. Amongst the resins and plant oils used by Ancient Egyptian embalmers there may have been plants, which contained significant amounts of nicotine. This contention is supported by Balabanova's discovery that the proportion of cotinine to nicotine in artificially mummified Egyptian remains is significantly less (3.4% vs 40.3%) than in naturally mummified remains. [29]

The discovery of cocaine in Egyptian mummies is however not so easy to account for as no direct evidence unequivocally supports any particular contention. Although it is possible that experimental error or modern fake mummies could account for these results both of these explanations are highly unlikely. The authenticity of the mummies has been confirmed by independent experts, the methods employed by Balabanova are reliable and are also used by forensic departments around the world. In addition Balabanova's results were confirmed by GC/MS at four different laboratories.

However, there is no reason to suppose that the cocaine identified by Balabanova in Egyptian mummies originated in South America because there are cocaine producing Erythroxylum species, which are indigenous to regions of Africa, India and Asia. The hypothesis that trade routes existed between Egypt and South America simply cannot be substantiated with any corroborative evidence and it would be incredibly unlikely that if links had existed that trade would have been restricted to plants that could be used as drugs. Furthermore, the use of such drugs by indigenous cultures is often associated with their religious beliefs and drugs are often revered as gifts from the gods. It would therefore be unusual for a culture to use particular drugs and to not make reference to their effects in their texts and legends."



Though the whole question can be solved, if it hasn't already been, by a genetic analysis comparing South Americans and Egyptians.

That is unless the hemisphere-spanning Egyptians were also chaste...

[Reefmagnet]

Originally Posted by Don C L

Perhaps look to the jet stream and changes in albedo for the clues to record highs and lows.
A slowed, wandering, or stalled, jet stream makes things much harder to foresee.
http://www.csun.edu/~vcmth00m/EBM.pdf

and actually, this paper is better to start with:
https://iopscience.iop.org/article/1...0/1/014005/pdf

This quote is informative, and, considering it was written in 2015, an apparently valid conclusion:
"Moreover, the frequency of days with high-amplitude jet-stream configurations has increased during recent years. These high-amplitude patterns are known to produce
persistent weather patterns that can lead to extreme weather events."

Considering that paper was written on the assumption that Arctic warming is happening twice as fast as everywhere else (just like most other places), and primarily being caused by greenhouse gasses, the conclusion regarding the jet stream could be considered as concluding the tail wags the dog by some.

[SuW]

"There are those who feel/believe..."
"...could be considered...by some."

Lord have mercy gentlemen (and it is always "gentlemen").

You should be ashamed of yourselves; I'll have to bring out the Wikipedia article about fallacies again. Don't you have anything better to do?

(King James Version, ftw, you unbelieving rabble).

[RaymondR]

Originally Posted by Pete7

Well perhaps he might be right, or at least not believing that ancient Egyptians built the Pyramids. Personally I think someone else did and a lot further back in time. Having seen the weathering marks on the Sphinx, one does wonder how they got there in an arid country.

There is also the small matter of core drill marks, perfectly machined vases in granite on display in the Cairo museum and tube cutting marks in many of the granite stones. Made with an ancient Egyptian copper chisel, I don't think so. Oh and mummies embalmed with cocaine, that isn't a native plant to Europe or Africa.

To quote Donald Rumsfeld, "I don't think we know what we don't know".

I was curious as to why saw marks appeared on the old city gates in Athens and eventually found that the ancients used cutting tools analogous to the modern tools we make by embedding tungsten carbide in a sintering or brazing bronze materiel.

They used wooden rods to form a cavity in a container of quartz sand or chips then poured molten bronze into the cavity. When the bronze cooled and solidified it embedded the quartz into the surface of the rod which was then used in a bow saw to saw or shape the rock.

[Don C L]

Originally Posted by Reefmagnet

Considering that paper was written on the assumption that Arctic warming is happening twice as fast as everywhere else (just like most other places), and primarily being caused by greenhouse gasses, the conclusion regarding the jet stream could be considered as concluding the tail wags the dog by some.

The model (in the first paper) was based on greenhouse gas increases and the model appears to predict the weather extremes we see now, and appears to support the idea that the big changes in jet stream flow is the cause, as I read it. In any case, the smart bet is on extreme weather events such as record highs and lows, and record floods and droughts to continue into the foreseeable future.

[SuW]

Originally Posted by Pete7

Well perhaps he might be right, or at least not believing that ancient Egyptians built the Pyramids. Personally I think ...
To quote Donald Rumsfeld, "I don't think we know what we don't know".

So, Pete7, do you still not know what we know? 3 false claims debunked (to my satisfaction).

Another interesting modern misconception is that people of the past were as stupid as we are.

[RaymondR]

And as for the weather events being more extreme, a rain lasting 40 days and 40 nights would not objectively be considered mild??