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Old 27-07-2024, 17:44   #76
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Re: Why did you buy golf cart batteries when they were so inferior.

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Well, could be there's a consipiracy against you. Or it could be you're just outside the pale. Granted the constructive criticism is pretty heavy on the 'criticism' side, but I'd encourage you to consider your approach needs adjustment - there is no consipiracy against you. A bunch of strangers read your posts and arrived at a similar conclusion: You're a whackadoodle.

If it helps, as a trawler guy, I've often felt I don't get a seat at the 'adults table.' The Cool Kids on CF don't take well to powerboaters despite my having interesting creds (past full-time delivery skipper, current distance cruiser, full time liveaboard, etc). Aldus Huxley's boating-adapted version of Animal Farm: Sail = Good. Engine = Bad. It's a reason I don't participate here as much as TrawlerForum which is a much nicer forum.

If you have issues with Mike O'Reilly/Boatpoker, you might want to move on from CF (do not under any circumstances try SailingAnarchy where you would be crucified unmercifully). From my perspective as a shunned powerboater, they are reasonable - the cream of the crop.

I have to say, you made my day with the suggestion I might be one of the CF Cool Kids.
Actually, I talked to a few ex cruiserforum guys who left to SailingAnarchy in frustration, remember, I’ve been around for a while.
They said that there is an increasing group of self righteous individuals who don’t really contribute much and are too sensitive. I won’t say the rest.

Sort of like a private boys sewing circle.
Sounds very much like you guys.

I’m going to check out what technical threads you 3 have created over the last 2 years and report back. I’m suspecting nearly none.
In which case you should lighten up. Creating technical threads is not easy.
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Old 27-07-2024, 18:34   #77
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If it helps, as a trawler guy, I've often felt I don't get a seat at the[I
'adults table.'[/I] The Cool Kids on CF don't take well to powerboaters
Hey now, I have been over on TF in past
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Do any of you know how hard it is to install and test a technical solution and then create a thread on this.
It is extremely difficult from the testing perspective and then we have to put up with the negative comments on here.
So what? Doesn't much matter to anyone else...

If the topic is interesting to a given reader, thanks to the originator. But for the many who don't really care, it's just chaff.

Especially if it's really just preaching a gospel in disguise... in the "my way or the highway, everyone else is stupid" mode. I'll run my own boat, thank you very much.


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Yep, I think I’m getting it Mvweebles, so you Mike and boatpoker think it’s completely ok to take over other people’s threads if you consider them to be Axxxxxxxs.
Posters don't own threads. The conversation will go where it wants.

Take a deep breath, get over it...

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Little did I know that buying Lithium at multiples of the cost which will burn your boat to the waterline at sea was better!
LFP are not multiples of the cost when looking at usable capacity. They wil not burn your boat to the waterline.
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so what?
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Nobody has mentioned what happens to your T shirt and jeans when you perform the simple job of lead acid battery maintenance of adding water.
It was always a surprise to see damage to my clothing when I was being very careful not to splash anything or touch the cases without washing my hands immediately afterward.

The savings in clothing alone is just one more reason to switch to LFP.
My maintenance consists of yearly checking of battery connections.
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Old 28-07-2024, 10:49   #85
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The idea that topping up lead-acid batteries with water every once in a while is an onerous task is pretty amusing (not you Senor ... you're just funnin' ). On the scale of boat-maintenance jobs, this has to be one of the easiest ones.

But here's my dirty little secret. My current lead-acid batteries, which are into their ninth (9th!) year of service, are SEALED. Yup... they are so-called "maintenance-free" lead-acid batteries. I have never added a drop to them, because I can't.

So for all you folks who think topping up batteries is such a burdensome task, fear no more. Follow my lead, and never have to worry about it again -- all without the bother of switching over to lithium .
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Re: Why did you buy golf cart batteries when they were so inferior.

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Re: Why did you buy golf cart batteries when they were so inferior.

I have no justification, no witty response.
Just spent the afternoon crawling to the rear of the bilge to service my 4x8D bank as a result of reading this thread.
The system is as antiquated as I am. But now I feel entitled to a cold brew, so maybe that's a reason?
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I've been adding maybe an ounce or two of water to my Golf Cart Batteries once a year for the past 3-4 years that I have owned them.

Very little maintenance is required.

I also have no shore power. Just solar of 115 Watts and a Victron MPPT Smart Controller. (65 Watts in Winter)

This after years of trying various 12 volt batteries and controllers. I would never buy Lithium Batteries since I simply don't need them.

Plus, they are too expensive for my needs.

I'm curious about your usage. I'm redoing an outboard powered (also curious about your 5hp) Catalina 27 for lower bay cruising and right now there's nothing but a $30 2amp shore power charger and 2 mostly dead dual use batteries. (the electric start on the outboard isn't even hooked up!)
some of the lights work, some don't. depth finder and a vhf. I'd like to get a small fridge on there (even if powered only half the time) and a bit more light, a tough book (or tablet) and the basic phone/tablet charging regime.

I know the bristol is a "bigger" little boat than the Catalina, but I'm curious what you have running for amp hours usage. I was planning to put on 200 watts (one flat and one movable), a decent charge controller, and a couple really decent LA batteries in that empty engine bay I have. (maybe hook up the starter, too)

we're out in the yeocomico right now, hoping to spend some anchor time in the bay and river systems and get away from the docks a bit until we get the tartan working.
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Re: Why did you buy golf cart batteries when they were so inferior.

I put (4) Crown CR-235 golf cart batteries in my Nordic 40 in 2013, spent 6 years cruising and living aboard full-time in Northern Europe, sailed back to Maine in 2021, and the batteries still test fine. In N Europe we spent winters in a marina with a smart charger that maintained them well, and I did an annual equalization, so that may have helped their longevity. I was considering going to LiPo4 but there would be a surcharge from my insurance company so I will likely replace my bank with CR-235s. They have performed extremely well. Max
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