Why did you buy golf cart batteries when they were so inferior.

[sailorboy1]

wonder how a thread winner is going to be determined here

[thomm225]

Originally Posted by smj

Golf cart batteries are pretty much equal to or maybe more expensive than lithium when considering usable amp hours rating.

I don't know where I could get Lithium Batteries for $335 that would support the needs of my boat.

The Golf Cart Batteries have been working perfectly. No need for Lithium.

[Shanachie]

I think it's naive to believe you can purchase lithium batteries at rock-bottom prices on the Internet and declare them as good as the lithiums that cost $1,000 or more.



On another lithium thread on CF, knowledgeable people are talking about how the cheap lithiums have crap battery management systems and can be junky/dangerous for that reason.


But, whatever. It's your boat. What's it worth to you to try to get bragging rights on an Internet forum?



The fact is, you really don't know what you're getting if you don't have a name-brand company vetting the systems. Just like other crap from China, be wary of the no-name items. They can cut any corners they want when no one is watching.



I have four Duracell golf-cart batteries that I bought new for about $400. Good quality. Reputable company. That means more to me than buying no-name batteries to jump on the latest trend.

[Knotical]

Like Statistical said, it’s not the batteries themselves, but rather the upgrade of an entire system that can get expensive, then there’s the safety factor (or lack there of) if not done right.

Those whose needs are met by lead acid batteries - why change it?

[sailorboy1]

Originally Posted by Shanachie

I have four Duracell golf-cart batteries that I bought new for about $400. Good quality. Reputable company. That means more to me than buying no-name batteries to jump on the latest trend.

You know that Duracell didn't make your batteries don't you?

[Mike OReilly]

At this point, the main barrier to me going to lithium is the OP’s attitude.

Here’s a suggestion for you Fuss. Show, don’t tell. Show people the advantages of lithium. Stop telling people what you think they aught to think or believe.

[Cheyne]

Duracell golf cart batteries are made by a company called East Penn Mfg with a license to use the Duracell name.

[Shanachie]

Originally Posted by Cheyne

Duracell golf cart batteries are made by a company called East Penn Mfg with a license to use the Duracell name.

What's wrong with buying batteries from an established company based in Pennsylvania?

[Cheyne]

Not a thing. Never said there was a problem. Just pointed out that they are made by another company under license, but not by Duracell.

Originally Posted by Shanachie

What's wrong with buying batteries from an established company based in Pennsylvania?

[Fuss]

Originally Posted by Mike OReilly

At this point, the main barrier to me going to lithium is the OP’s attitude.

Here’s a suggestion for you Fuss. Show, don’t tell. Show people the advantages of lithium. Stop telling people what you think they aught to think or believe.

Wow, I am honoured Mike, such an influence , I did not think I had. I thought I was completely unimportant like you guys.

This thread is not actually about Lithium, it’s about why 15 years ago 2v fork truck batteries were far superior to golf cart or marine batteries yet most had or chose the latter. I think my Original Post „shows“ why they were superior. But it’s sort of a thread based on the past, it’s not really to represent current lithium thinking..

I never talk about anything that I have not directly experienced. But don’t take it too seriously, it’s only my opinion.

If you really want to experience my bad thread attitude in a lithium thread, this would be the lead is dead thread.

Later, I will be writing a new controversial thread called something like… „Why the lead start battery is dead“ …. Can you imagine that, not only is the lead house bank dead, but the start bank too….oh dear oh dear, this is going to cause trouble!!!
…But for this one you are going to have to wait as I’m not quite ready yet.

And even later… the all lithium boat with the ultimate redundancy

And even, even later…. The 140 dollar supercap, why it changes everything.

These threads, will probably get a big pushback and I’ll probably have to defend by saying…not for optimist dinghy sailors.

[Mike OReilly]

I stopped reading you in that other thread a while back. I foolishly thought I could offer some advice here. My mistake… wasted words.

Carry on. It’s easy to ignore the ignorables.

[KTP]

With a 16+ year life for forklift batteries, I kind of wish they would just use those as ballast in the keel. 6000 pounds goes into the keel, might as well be fork lift bats. Imagine having access to 60,000 watt-hr in your 37' sailboat, you could use that induction stove to make turkeys for the whole dock.

[Fuss]

Originally Posted by Mike OReilly

I stopped reading you in that other thread a while back. I foolishly thought I could offer some advice here. My mistake… wasted words.

Carry on. It’s easy to ignore the ignorables.

Perfect Mike, I think you made a very good decision. Now you are free to buy new batteries.

[boatpoker]

Originally Posted by Fuss

I thought I was completely unimportant like you guys.

don’t take it too seriously, it’s only my opinion.

Finally ... You nailed it !!!

[Shanachie]

Fuss, Mike is right. The problem is that you are very impressed with yourself for lately discovering a technology that other boaters have been using for years.



And, based on your comments, it's clear that you still don't understand how to deploy the technology effectively.



If someone sails a floating McMansion with all of the comforts of home, lithium is valuable because the amp draw is going to be staggering. For more modest boats, it's six of one and half dozen of another.


Given your aversion to watering lead acid batteries, I have no doubt that you had little success with them.


So perhaps it's better for you to go with lithium, at least until you discover that charging them effectively creates a different set of problems if you aren't careful.