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16-04-2021, 09:49
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Senior Cruiser

Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Between Caribbean and Canada
Boat: Murray 33-Chouette & Pape Steelmaid-44-Safara-both steel cutters
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Re: Solar Panels - horizontal or angled?
My experience is that other things matter much more, sharing is deadly.
Where your boat lays is important because that drives what shades. On the hook in the trades you will be pointing eastward. So anything on the starboard side may shade. My wind gen is on the stb side, because of prop walk and docking not good but required. The radar was a problem until I moved it, now much less of a problem. Optimum is to be in slip pointed North.
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16-04-2021, 10:02
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#47
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Moderator

Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Solent, England
Boat: Moody 31
Posts: 16,452
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Re: Solar Panels - horizontal or angled?
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Originally Posted by Wotname
Have you noticed any difference in dirt or salt built up between the sloped panels and the flat panels? I am speculating if some slight natural water flow aids in self cleaning.
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Not so much salt, but dirt and sand from the Sahara if we get a southerly is quite bad. So I don't want a pool of water drying and leaving marks on the glass.
Does it make a difference? lots of smears if you don't clean it properly do  We have a window squeeze thing because I can't reach the back of the panel.
Pete
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16-04-2021, 10:40
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#48
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Registered User
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: BVIs
Boat: Lagoon 440, Sea Of Love
Posts: 141
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Re: Solar Panels - horizontal or angled?
Put them on a hinge so they can be rotated. Best of both. That's what I did.
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16-04-2021, 10:52
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#49
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Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Solent, England
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Re: Solar Panels - horizontal or angled?
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Originally Posted by sail4evr
Put them on a hinge so they can be rotated. Best of both. That's what I did.
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Hmm, yes but big 300w panels have a big single piece of glass and whilst mine are held to the arch tube with u bolts, so could tilt the risk of one corner moving and the other staying put followed by a big cracking sound kind of puts me off. Smaller panels on the guardrails I could see being tilted.
Pete
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16-04-2021, 12:46
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#50
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Registered User
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: BVIs
Boat: Lagoon 440, Sea Of Love
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Re: Solar Panels - horizontal or angled?
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Originally Posted by Pete7
Hmm, yes but big 300w panels have a big single piece of glass and whilst mine are held to the arch tube with u bolts, so could tilt the risk of one corner moving and the other staying put followed by a big cracking sound kind of puts me off. Smaller panels on the guardrails I could see being tilted.
Pete
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I have 7 300 amp panels set into simple aluminum frames. Each frame with 2 ubolts and lines pull on the frame from the forward and aft edges so therr is no diagonal strain. I've had the panels for 11 years. The 2 lines join so there is only one pull. I have 2 frames with 2 panels and 1 frame with 3 panels total 7, but see it any way you want.
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16-04-2021, 15:25
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#51
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Registered User
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Southern California, USA
Boat: Beneteau 473
Posts: 230
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Re: Solar Panels - horizontal or angled?
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Originally Posted by sailorboy1
I think any gain of one sides angled panel will be offset by a loss on the other angled panel. At best it will just equal out. Meanwhile the angled panels lose sun during the peak hours.
My vote is go flat.
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Absolutely. Easier mounting also.
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17-04-2021, 07:44
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#52
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Registered User
Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: SF Bay Area
Boat: Beneteau Oceanis 49
Posts: 32
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Re: Solar Panels - horizontal or angled?
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Originally Posted by Wotname
Which of the two solar panel arrangements in likely to be more effective in general.???
Both have the same area (3 sq m). Arrangement 'A' is completely horizontal (at rest) where as arrangement 'B' has 1.5 sq m horizontal and two 'wings' each 0.75 sq m) angled (fixed) say 45 degrees (or maybe 30 degrees) from horizontal.
Assuming a mono hull, aligned fore and aft as shown, no shading from rig etc, used both underway and anchored, used at any latitude from 0 to say 45 and each panel has its own MPPT charge controller.
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Consider a simple fore/aft articulating frame. Mine has 2 simple locking hand bolts, and a 9/16 bolt to lock the frame horizontal when I leave the boat or for a storm.
In the evening I set my panels to face where I think the sun will rise, based on the prevailing wind. During the day I adjust to keep the sun at right angle to the panels. I can also watch my solar regulator for maximum volts/current while adjusting the angle.
I can follow the sun from horizon to horizon. I just have 2 - Kyocera 135w panels, yet they keep my 4 - battery banks fully charged without the need to run the engine. (Fridge and freezer compressors, etc.)
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21-04-2021, 10:53
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#53
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Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2014
Boat: Morgan, West Indies 38 Ketch
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Re: Solar Panels - horizontal or angled?
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22-04-2021, 14:45
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#54
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Registered User
Join Date: Jan 2017
Location: Everywhere
Boat: Land Ho!
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Re: Solar Panels - horizontal or angled?
I stand by my prior statement that flat is the way to go, and also that a slight slope is the way to go. You can see the difference in my two solar panel locations on my catamaran.
The near panels have about 5 degree slant and the far panels are nearly horizontal. This is what they look like with tree pollen, but they also get standing water, which comes off in a great big splash when the boat gets rocked. I have yet to correct the issue.
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22-04-2021, 14:51
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#55
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Moderator and Certifiable Refitter
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: South of 43 S, Australia
Boat: C.L.O.D.
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Re: Solar Panels - horizontal or angled?
Thanks Loud Music, I gotta agree.
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All men dream: but not equally. Those who dream by night in the dusty recesses of their minds wake in the day to find it was vanity: but the dreamers of the day are dangereous men, for they may act their dreams with open eyes, to make it possible. T.E. Lawrence
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20-09-2021, 13:01
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#56
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Registered User
Join Date: Sep 2021
Location: NY
Posts: 2
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Re: Solar Panels - horizontal or angled?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Wotname
Which of the two solar panel arrangements in likely to be more effective in general.???
Both have the same area (3 sq m). Arrangement 'A' is completely horizontal (at rest) where as arrangement 'B' has 1.5 sq m horizontal and two 'wings' each 0.75 sq m) angled (fixed) say 45 degrees (or maybe 30 degrees) from horizontal.
Assuming a mono hull, aligned fore and aft as shown, no shading from rig etc, used both underway and anchored, used at any latitude from 0 to say 45 and each panel has its own MPPT charge controller.
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I installed 6x100W RockPals (600W) - https://solwiser.com/am-solar-panel-reviews/ solar panels on my boat in 2020; two on top of the dodger and four on top of a new stern arch. Horizontal panels will probably give maximal Ah power generated per day.
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20-09-2021, 15:24
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#57
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Moderator and Certifiable Refitter
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: South of 43 S, Australia
Boat: C.L.O.D.
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Re: Solar Panels - horizontal or angled?
Welcome aboard CF, DavidBeger.
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All men dream: but not equally. Those who dream by night in the dusty recesses of their minds wake in the day to find it was vanity: but the dreamers of the day are dangereous men, for they may act their dreams with open eyes, to make it possible. T.E. Lawrence
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21-09-2021, 03:20
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#58
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Registered User
Join Date: Sep 2021
Location: NY
Posts: 2
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Re: Solar Panels - horizontal or angled?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Wotname
Welcome aboard CF, DavidBeger.
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Thx
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31-01-2022, 01:10
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#59
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Registered User
Join Date: Jan 2022
Location: Spain
Boat: Puma 435
Posts: 7
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Re: Solar Panels - horizontal or angled?
There is a manufacturer in Spain that sells and ships some arches that are assembled without the need for welding, adaptable to any boat and with a rotating frame for the panels that tilt towards the position of the sun.
https://www.autocazantes.com/en-gb/portiques-3/
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