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10-12-2024, 15:44
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Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: On the boat, somewhere in Australia.
Boat: Swanson 42 & Kelly Peterson 44
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Reliable LED strip lighting?
Hi all,
I’ve been using simple warm white LED strip lights in the Swanson for six years now and I love them. Coupled with a PWM controller they’ve been perfect. However, over the years they’d become a little dim, the silicone had yellowed and one small section had failed. So to make the boat nice for sale I replaced them all.
Well that was a mistake. Within a month I’ve had nearly a third of the lengths fail.
They looked pretty much like the same EBay basic white strips I bought six years ago, but clearly not.
Can anyone share a recommendation of a brand they trust? And maybe something with colour options too. As I was searching CF for an answer to my question I stumbled on some posts recommending colour strips and I can see the wisdom of something that I thought of initially as a silly gimmick and no help on a boat. It turns out colours are a good idea indeed.
Ideally something that doesn’t need a phone to control it though.
I’ll need at least 30 meters for each boat, but probably in 10 meter increments (that’s 30 feet for non-metric people) for independent control.
Matt
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11-12-2024, 05:13
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Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Maryland, USA
Boat: 58' Sedan Bridge
Posts: 5,614
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Re: Reliable LED strip lighting?
Our boat came with several 120VAC rope lights, mostly not working. I replaced one so far, warm white 3/8" product from Imtra (via SailorSams.com, I think), seems to work OK. Not inexpensive. Some colors available.
Tried some 13mm rope from 1000.bulbs.com, less expensive, seemed OK but I decided they were too fat for the existing mounting troughs. They offered a 10mm version but only in 150' spools, way more than I could have used...
"Ropes" different from "strips" so not sure this is helpful... although IIRC, the 1000bulbs place offered both... and I think maybe in DC versions too (maybe both places did)...
-Chris
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11-12-2024, 06:49
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Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Rocky's Boat Yard
Boat: Tayana V42 - Passages
Posts: 665
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Re: Reliable LED strip lighting?
I have some strips from Flexfire that were installed at least 6 years ago. They are fed from a regulated analog power source. Not cheap but they appear to be very reliable.
https://www.flexfireleds.com/
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11-12-2024, 07:24
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Join Date: Jun 2021
Boat: Beneteau 46
Posts: 82
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Re: Reliable LED strip lighting?
I replaced the failing undercabinet rope lights in our Beneteau 46 with high CRI 90+ strip lights from SuperBrightLEDs https://www.superbrightleds.com/5m-w...i-12v-24v-ip20. We also added a single color red strip for the nav station. Multicolor LEDs are fun but the quality of their white light can't match a high CRI light source for color rendition and minimizing eye strain.
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11-12-2024, 07:38
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Marine Service Provider
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Port Credit, Ontario or Bahamas
Boat: Benford 38 Fantail Cruiser
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Re: Reliable LED strip lighting?
All lighting on our boat is LED, 10yrs old (including several rope lights), all from Ikea and never an issue.
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11-12-2024, 07:45
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Join Date: Aug 2016
Location: Bahamas
Boat: 1983 Pearson 424 Ketch
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Re: Reliable LED strip lighting?
I installed these in my cockpit this past spring, so not a long term test, but they've been excellent so far.
They are 12v, so I snipped the AC adapter off and run them off 12v. The dimmer is great. It lives in a cockpit locker. They are IP65 waterproof, warm white, and dim down to a nice low glow for dinner.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...e?ie=UTF8&th=1
The photo makes them look bluer and brighter than they are, but they're still plenty bright for futzing with the dinghy after dark.
I also use them to light up the boat when anchored in busy spots.
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11-12-2024, 09:47
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Join Date: Nov 2016
Location: Colorado/Miami
Boat: Beneteau 381
Posts: 112
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Re: Reliable LED strip lighting?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Peregrine1983
I installed these in my cockpit this past spring, so not a long term test, but they've been excellent so far.
They are 12v, so I snipped the AC adapter off and run them off 12v. The dimmer is great. It lives in a cockpit locker. They are IP65 waterproof, warm white, and dim down to a nice low glow for dinner.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...e?ie=UTF8&th=1
The photo makes them look bluer and brighter than they are, but they're still plenty bright for futzing with the dinghy after dark.
I also use them to light up the boat when anchored in busy spots.
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Hi.
Sorry in advance for the possible thread drift. To clarify, you cut the plug off and wired directly to 12volts? I would like to attach a cig lighter plug. As far as you see, would that work with this product?
Thanks
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11-12-2024, 09:54
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Join Date: Aug 2016
Location: Bahamas
Boat: 1983 Pearson 424 Ketch
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Re: Reliable LED strip lighting?
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Originally Posted by Rocinante33
Hi.
Sorry in advance for the possible thread drift. To clarify, you cut the plug off and wired directly to 12volts? I would like to attach a cig lighter plug. As far as you see, would that work with this product?
Thanks
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Exactly. I selected these lights because they are 12v and that adapter just converts 110ac to 12vdc, so I just sniped the adapter off. I could have attached a cig lighter plug, but I hard wired it in. Of course, I'm not a professional, so do this at your own risk!
Add a fuse, and size and connect your wires properly.
Also, the dimmer does not appear to be waterproof, so I keep that dry.
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11-12-2024, 10:21
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Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: On the boat, somewhere in Australia.
Boat: Swanson 42 & Kelly Peterson 44
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Re: Reliable LED strip lighting?
Lots of great leads for me to follow here. Thank you all.
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11-12-2024, 10:24
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Location: in paradise
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Re: Reliable LED strip lighting?
Most likely the LED strips that failed do not have a voltage regulator and they were connected straight to the batteries.
You can’t do that as they will burn out. You need a regulated 12V supply.
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11-12-2024, 12:10
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Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Arctic Ocean
Boat: Under construction 35' ketch (and +3 smaller)
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Re: Reliable LED strip lighting?
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Originally Posted by s/v Jedi
Most likely the LED strips that failed do not have a voltage regulator and they were connected straight to the batteries.
You can’t do that as they will burn out. You need a regulated 12V supply.
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Not just voltage but regulated current.
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11-12-2024, 13:12
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Join Date: May 2020
Location: SoCal
Boat: 35' Alden Design Cutter
Posts: 673
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Re: Reliable LED strip lighting?
In the sign business we rely on Sloan LED's and GE Lighting LED's for consistent brightness, longevity, temp.
As Jedi states, use a regulator.
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11-12-2024, 20:15
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Registered User
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: On the boat, somewhere in Australia.
Boat: Swanson 42 & Kelly Peterson 44
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Re: Reliable LED strip lighting?
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Originally Posted by s/v Jedi
Most likely the LED strips that failed do not have a voltage regulator and they were connected straight to the batteries.
You can’t do that as they will burn out. You need a regulated 12V supply.
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No, in this case they were getting regulated voltage.
At your recommendation as it turns out. A while back I was surprised by how much they flickered with even the tiniest voltage variation on the boat. You recommended a regulator so I fitted one.
And as I mentioned, the first lot lasted fine, it was the new lot that shat themselves.
They were crap, end of story I suspect.
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11-12-2024, 20:16
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Join Date: Sep 2008
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Re: Reliable LED strip lighting?
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Originally Posted by Iron E
In the sign business we rely on Sloan LED's and GE Lighting LED's for consistent brightness, longevity, temp.
As Jedi states, use a regulator.
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I’ll check out those brands, thank you.
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11-12-2024, 20:26
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Marine Service Provider
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Port Credit, Ontario or Bahamas
Boat: Benford 38 Fantail Cruiser
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Re: Reliable LED strip lighting?
Quote:
Originally Posted by s/v Jedi
Most likely the LED strips that failed do not have a voltage regulator and they were connected straight to the batteries.
You can’t do that as they will burn out. You need a regulated 12V supply.
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My three different model Ikea strips are now 10 years old and still working just fine. I cut off the AC adapter and wired them to my unregulated DC panel.
This is the second boat I've done this and have never had an issue.
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