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Old 29-08-2016, 12:10   #1
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12 Volt air conditioner may be availabe soon

I came across this Kickstarter project for a 12 volt air conditioner. It only has a capacity of 1,100 BTUs. It might be enough to cool a small cabin.

I don't know anything about it except what I read on the Kickstarter web page. It is supposed to be available next year.

You can google Zero Breeze and find more information about it.


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Re: 12 Volt air conditioner may be availabe soon

1,000 BTU won't do much at all, I didn't read the article, but it's not voltage that is the issue, its that it takes bunches of power to move enough heat to cool say a sleeping area, bunches.
My little 5,000 BTU pulls 6 amps at 120 VDC, of course that is 60 amps at 12 VDC, assuming same efficiency then 1,100 BTU would cost you 13 amps
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1,100 BTUs? That might kill some of the humidity but cooling?

That's about enough capacity to cool a small bathroom 2-3 degrees from ambient. Boat head might cool 5-6 degrees.
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Isn't that called a refrigerator ................... with an opening large enough for you to stick your head in?
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Old 29-08-2016, 12:44   #5
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Re: 12 Volt air conditioner may be availabe soon

I sent a question to their Kickstarter site about current draw. They claim that it will cool a 50 square foot room. They don't say how high the room is, how good the insulation is or the outside temperature.

You can buy it with a built in 40 amp hour battery, they claim 3.5 hours of run time on high and 5 hours on medium. Without knowing the discharge curve for the battery and what percentage of the charge they plan on pulling out of the battery I hesitate to calculate the amperage draw.

I don't have much faith in this being able to cool a cabin when it is 95 degrees outside.

I will be waiting for them to actually being on he market and there are some reports from happy (or unhappy) customers.
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50 sq ft? That's just a hair bigger than a king sized bed.
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Old 29-08-2016, 14:21   #7
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Re: 12 Volt air conditioner may be availabe soon

Best off not having it and just get used to the heat..
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Buy a fan. 12v automotive fans are cheap, and can be fitted with a screen in the forward hatch, running air through the boat.
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Best off not having it and just get used to the heat..
Not sure if I can get used to 35-40C and >90% humidity which is what the weather has been like in Florida the last 2-3 months.

The final straw is when you are anchored in the wrong place, the winds drop and the mozzies and noseeums attack.

Options: lock yourself below and turn the boat into a sweatbox, leave the hatches and ports open, get eaten alive and expose yourself to mosquito born diseases OR turn on the air conditioning.

Think I would choose door number three.
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50 sq ft? That's just a hair bigger than a king sized bed.

That would be 5' X 10' , but 0 feet high? Need cubic feet to make sense of it, but my fridge is 14 cu ft for example, I bet a house fridge might be 50 cu ft?

Just looked it up, a house fridge is 25 cu ft, or at least the ones Google found were.

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Not sure if I can get used to 35-40C and >90% humidity which is what the weather has been like in Florida the last 2-3 months.



The final straw is when you are anchored in the wrong place, the winds drop and the mozzies and noseeums attack.



Options: lock yourself below and turn the boat into a sweatbox, leave the hatches and ports open, get eaten alive and expose yourself to mosquito born diseases OR turn on the air conditioning.



Think I would choose door number three.

That is to a large extent why I got a generator, I don't think I could stand it, and I do not think she would try for long either.


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That would be 5' X 10' , but 0 feet high? Need cubic feet to make sense of it, but my fridge is 14 cu ft for example, I bet a house fridge might be 50 cu ft?

Just looked it up, a house fridge is 25 cu ft, or at least the ones Google found were.

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King sized bed is roughly 7'X7' but yes, without the third dimension the specs are pretty useless. What if I have a room that's 5' wide, 10' long and 25' high? However, I would assume the manufacturer's claim is based on a typical height in an RV so about 7'.

I think our house fridge is 21-22 cu ft. My boat is about 10. Initially I thought that was going to be a lot but as I've started using it more it has shrunk.
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That is to a large extent why I got a generator, I don't think I could stand it, and I do not think she would try for long either.


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I don't want it cold like a lot of people but the temps this summer were just too much. We keep the thermostat at home set around 80-82 and that's just fine. Enough to totally kill the humidity and keep it just cool enough for comfort.
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Re: 12 Volt air conditioner may be availabe soon

There is a company that is at the Miami boat show every year with a 12v air conditioning unit...the name escapes me...anyone else see it? It's more of a cabin cooler.
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However, I would assume the manufacturer's claim is based on a typical height in an RV so about 7'.
And why would you assume that? Anyone that advertises that it's product will cool 50 sq. ft. instead of a proper measurement (cu. ft.) is not exactly being honest. When it comes to people hawking their wares I take nothing for granted.
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