450: Screens for 450

[Rickthesailor]

HI,

We got some screens made up for our boat. We are using the Waterline screens for the port windows and they work ok (could use better elastic bands).

We had custom screens made up for the sliding window by the galley and the two forward windows in the salon. The sliding door mates up perfectly with the new screen.

It is made out of starboard polymer and slides into the inner track. The forward screens just pop into to opening and stay there with no need for help.

Now just need to figure out how to channel the rain runoff away from the front windows.

Regards, Rick

[PaulinOz]

The problem with the forward windows is all the water from the area in front of the Fly Bridge helm has been expertly directed towards and either side of the mast. There is no drip point on the overhang in front of the windows, so if open water just tracks straight into boat. The provision of a drip point is all that is required no big deal.I used a piece 20mm plastic angel just double sided tapped to boat been good for 2 1/2 years so far. Any shape plastic section you can source will work to give the water a drip point onto windows instead of behind them.

[Rickthesailor]

Originally Posted by PaulinOz

The problem with the forward windows is all the water from the area in front of the Fly Bridge helm has been expertly directed towards and either side of the mast. There is no drip point on the overhang in front of the windows, so if open water just tracks straight into boat. The provision of a drip point is all that is required no big deal.I used a piece 20mm plastic angel just double sided tapped to boat been good for 2 1/2 years so far. Any shape plastic section you can source will work to give the water a drip point onto windows instead of behind them.

HI Paul,

Thanks, will give it a try... The salon windows on mine open inwards instead of outwards like yours, and the bulk of the rain flows down the starboard window. It's a shame they didn't build a drip line into their mould...

Regards, Rick

[PaulinOz]

Sorry Rick did not twig to the new style opening windows. This is our other addition, it allows windows to be open in the strongest rain. Which can be an issue in the tropics, where you still need good ventilation into boat, while it is raining.

I suspect it does not enter the French designers mind that any one would want fresh air into the boat when it is raining. The shade slides into a 6mm plastic sail track screwed and glued under the overhang. This sail track also performs the same job as the previously mentioned angle to provide a drip point when shade not installed.

Shading the front windows helps a lot with heat control in summer. Since this picture it has been extended out both sides to provide more shade to the side windows as well. As a bonus at anchor the rain is easily collected to augment the water supplies.

[Rickthesailor]

Originally Posted by PaulinOz

Sorry Rick did not twig to the new style opening windows. This is our other addition, it allows windows to be open in the strongest rain. Which can be an issue in the tropics, where you still need good ventilation into boat, while it is raining.

I suspect it does not enter the French designers mind that any one would want fresh air into the boat when it is raining. The shade slides into a 6mm plastic sail track screwed and glued under the overhang. This sail track also performs the same job as the previously mentioned angle to provide a drip point when shade not installed.

Shading the front windows helps a lot with heat control in summer. Since this picture it has been extended out both sides to provide more shade to the side windows as well. As a bonus at anchor the rain is easily collected to augment the water supplies.

HI,

That awning is very nice... Did you sew pockets into it for rods to provide structure? Does the side awnings block the walkway to the bow? Did you do this yourself?

Regards, Rick

[PaulinOz]

"Did you sew pockets into it for rods to provide structure?"
No rods, the cords holding it are all 8mm elastic shot cord with plastic hooks attached. So they pull it tight and hold it but will give in a strong wind

"Does the side awnings block the walkway to the bow? "
Only in that shot chord and hooks go out to the life lines so requires to be stepped over.


"Did you do this yourself?"
Mostly the better half on her sewing machine, made from Sunbrella.

[Rickthesailor]

HI,

Finally got around to getting a drip line installed... I used a tube like yours but found that the water curved around the tube during heavy rains and still ran down the window...

Hunted around the hardware stores here in Bonaire and found some vinyl trim that had a nice sharp edge so tried that and it seems to work well in very heavy rain... There is some splash as the water lands on the lip under the window, but the screens keep the water out.. I have mounted it flush at the forward edge of the roof line and the trim angles forward a bit.

I used indoor double sided tape as I was not sure if the trim was going to work and I wanted to make sure I could remove it. The store recommended gorilla permanent double sided. Glad I went with the indoor as it was still a bear to get off, so would imagine the permanent may have never come off.

Still intend to follow your lead re the awnings when we get to Panama.

Regards, Rick

[Emerald Sea]

We have the channel drip line installed above our fwd windows but, as it would, the water drips down from it and then the drops will fall on the horizontal ledge and spatter back into the salon. There's just no winning!

As for a yawning, we had one made that covers the complete salon area as well as the forward window area. Its secured under the boom, tied off to the genoa and stanchions, borders the large bimini. The huge advantage with this is that it acts as the first barrier to the tropical sun keeping the underlying salon just that much cooler. And offer protection to the forward sitting area. We also put our hammock up under the yawning. Honestly, its not enough to go with the little bitty sun shade on the front windows.

[Rickthesailor]

Originally Posted by Emerald Sea

We have the channel drip line installed above our fwd windows but, as it would, the water drips down from it and then the drops will fall on the horizontal ledge and spatter back into the salon. There's just no winning!

As for a yawning, we had one made that covers the complete salon area as well as the forward window area. Its secured under the boom, tied off to the genoa and stanchions, borders the large bimini. The huge advantage with this is that it acts as the first barrier to the tropical sun keeping the underlying salon just that much cooler. And offer protection to the forward sitting area. We also put our hammock up under the yawning. Honestly, its not enough to go with the little bitty sun shade on the front windows.

HI,

Do you have a picture of your awning... We are looking at ways to reduce heat....

We have screens in our forward salon windows and they keep out the splash from our drip line... We also made up a large screen that fits into the tracks that the sliding window by the sinks uses.... We leave the window open and use the screen in its place... The sliding door fits flush to it and still locks... Allows air to circulate through all the time....

Regards, Rick

[Emerald Sea]

Here's a photo, perhaps not the best, showing the yawning and my haven.