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Old 20-09-2019, 13:28   #31
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Re: No 6-pack, no insurance. Huh, really?

The OP has left the building.


Given no contrary information, I think we are probably talking about "no relevant expereince."
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Old 20-09-2019, 14:11   #32
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Right on Captlloyd, I don't accumulate sea-time very fast any more so I'm up for my third renewal by written test. The tests I received are the most difficult I've ever taken, way more than the ones I took at school for my original license and way more difficult than my last renewal. I've heard that the passing rate at both MM Academy and the USCG Academy are way below 50% the first time around.
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Difficult test, huh? Was this covered? He had a permit.



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Canada requires a license to run any boat.
Not quite true.
Canada simply requires proof of competency and offers one such proof in the Boating Proficiency Card for pleasurecraft. My 10yr. old nephew passed that simple test at the Toronto Boat show without any studying.
Canada has no such thing as a license for pleasure or commercial vessels. We do however have Transport Canada "Ministers Certificates" for various levels of comercial requirements.

https://www.tc.gc.ca/eng/marinesafet...erator-360.htm
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Old 20-09-2019, 16:18   #35
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spend a day filling out the forms and get a 6 pack. They feel of you and if you are warm and can copy the rules of the road they give you one.
Nonsense. To get a OUPV you need 360 days of sea time of which 90 days must be in the past three years. The test is more comprehensive than the one I took for my pilot's license.
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Also, 90 of those days need to be on ocean so make sure your 14 footer is well equipped.
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Old 20-09-2019, 17:44   #37
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The USCG 6-pack license currently requires 360 days of logged sea service.



I have counted our round the world sea days and there were only about 400.


Which I think renders USCG6 about as irrelevant for cruising in a simple 42 footer as it gets, eh?


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Old 20-09-2019, 17:51   #38
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Right on Captlloyd, I don't accumulate sea-time very fast any more so I'm up for my third renewal by written test. The tests I received are the most difficult I've ever taken, way more than the ones I took at school for my original license and way more difficult than my last renewal. I've heard that the passing rate at both MM Academy and the USCG Academy are way below 50% the first time around.
Coast Guard Academy grad here. The only test we had to take was rules of the road. Not sure anyone failed it, most of us tried for 100% and we're disappointed if we fell short with a high 90s percentage.
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Of course. Looks like a crossing situation.
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Don't know how long ago you took that test but five years ago I got 100% on both the Rules of the Road and the Deck General. I doubt if I can repeat that this time, I'll be happy just to pass. Back in the day I got 100% on both the Flight Engineer Basic and the Turbojet FAA written exams, probably can't do that today either.
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I have counted our round the world sea days and there were only about 400.


Which I think renders USCG6 about as irrelevant for cruising in a simple 42 footer as it gets, eh?


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I can show 5 or 6 years but only about 100 days in the last 3 years .
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Given no contrary information, I think we are probably talking about "no relevant expereince."
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The most difficult part of getting a Captain's License is accumulating and documenting the required sea days.
Accumulating and documenting the time is tuff at the moment. Trying like hell to change that.
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Old 20-09-2019, 19:29   #45
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If your 360 days of sea-time for a 6-Pax (airline jargon for passengers) is in 14' outboard on a lake it will not do you any good with any insurance company. They want a few months, at least of hardcore at sea experience in a sailing vessel similar to the one you want to buy. No USCG ticket requires any practical test, only documented sea-time. If you are starting from zip the full-on ASA courses followed by a few months crewing, including helming, on similar boats will make your resume look a lot better.

And the outboard story above is no a joke, I know a guy who got OUPV in a powered canoe in a man-made lake behind his house. He'd go out there every day for four hours an go round a round for 360 sea-days. At least that's what he put on his sea-service.

And by the way you can't get financing or enter most marinas or foreign countries without insurance.

Im not starting from zip however, this part, If you are starting from zip the full-on ASA courses followed by a few months crewing, including helming, on similar boats will make your resume look a lot better. is what Im trying to do now. I have the ASA going. Trying to figure out how arrange the rest. Suggestions?
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