400: Love my Lagoon!

[rtoner]

Originally Posted by arsenelupiga

we have extra factory installed stbd winch. works well and no probs handling screecher singlenhanded on both tacks.

Overnight we got most weather so far. Consistent 40-50 kn seen max 55 kn. 5 cats and 1 mono in anchorage our boat smallest. Screecher held up without a glitch.

Thank you. Very helpful.

[jbinbi]

Without uv coating, are you worried about leaving the sail up all the time? Also, I have a gennaker, what is the difference between that and a screecher?. Mine is also on a furler looking exactly like yours. Clew of sail has velcro to sort of hold it wrapped when furled.

[arsenelupiga]

Originally Posted by jbinbi

Without uv coating, are you worried about leaving the sail up all the time? Also, I have a gennaker, what is the difference between that and a screecher?. Mine is also on a filter looking exactly like yours. Clew of sail has velcro to sort of hold it wrapped when furled.

screecher gennaker, same thing to me. As I see it, it is just larger jib, another level of reefing. Say for upwind, up to 15 kn app - screecher, up to 20 full jib, up to 26 1 reef in main, etc, as per lagoon manual. It is 76m2, carbon. UV protection is that white stuff, apparently some high tech material, forgot the name. It is around 0.5m wide. See pic. It appears no rain comes thru either, as I have checked recently. Mold is killer for carbon sails. Maybe it is actually done well, still not sure.

I will have it on when in sailing mode, not really all the time. And is especially good in super light winds as it does not collapse even in 3kn app.

[jbinbi]

Looks like you have a high tech sail and sort of a cover. Mine is just dacron, and has nothing along the leech. Might be worthwhile for me to contact a sailmaker. I have had my boat for 2 summers now, and I just put this up 2x. I usually have very little help sailing, so if I have someone with sailing experience, easier to use.

One issue I had is that it was hard to furl. I have a very short continuous line that came with the furler, and basically had to lay on the trampoline to keep it from coming out of the groove, the angle to pull on seems critical. Then it also seems that part way through the furl, the wind would catch some sail and it would completely unfurl on me.

I was worried about leaving it up and having it unfurl on me. Your idea of putting a 'lock' through the furler is great idea. Any other tips are appreciated.

[arsenelupiga]

Originally Posted by jbinbi

Looks like you have a high tech sail and sort of a cover. Mine is just dacron, and has nothing along the leech. Might be worthwhile for me to contact a sailmaker. I have had my boat for 2 summers now, and I just put this up 2x. I usually have very little help sailing, so if I have someone with sailing experience, easier to use.

One issue I had is that it was hard to furl. I have a very short continuous line that came with the furler, and basically had to lay on the trampoline to keep it from coming out of the groove, the angle to pull on seems critical. Then it also seems that part way through the furl, the wind would catch some sail and it would completely unfurl on me.

I was worried about leaving it up and having it unfurl on me. Your idea of putting a 'lock' through the furler is great idea. Any other tips are appreciated.

you can check my blog, scroll down 3 posts or so. there are all pics of my setup. Note that it took many bottles of merlot to figure gennaker setup out.

I would verify first that your boat can actually handle forces that are required by gennaker. If you go upwind, your leech has to be very tight and that requires some real force in halyard. You can choose not to go against wind that sharp, if you not sure.

https://www.yit.nz/yacht/papiga

we had today nice passage, managed 50 % apparent with gennaker only. My wife is screaming at me why it took me so long to figure out.

[DavefromNZ]

What’s not to like https://youtu.be/gBdPnXzg-6c

[rom]

I could be wrong but I believe both sails are what lagoon calls "code 0". That is (allegedly) an upwind sail. Those are very flat and can reach 40AWA if properly setup, halyard tighten like crazy. That's the very best I can do with mine which looks pretty much like Jbinbi's. I would expect a gennaker to be slightly bigger and of course not that flat, typically meant for say 90AWA.

[John_char]

Hi Scottster. Stumbled on this thread then checked out your channel. Great info I must say.

Any updates?

Keep up the good work.