400: Lagoon 400 S-2

[careka]

here is one out now.
Drift Away

it is Yme_Bosma

[ArtM]

Originally Posted by Erdnase

How do boats like catamarans flip N land on its back?

Anyone can think of a scenario?

You can find reports of capsizing via Google. The most common cause is pitch-poling where the nose of the boat is diving into the waves. It's possible for one of the bows to go into the water. The force of the sail, wind, and waves can then drive the boat forward, lifting the rear of the boat and flipping it over in a forward direction.

Because many lagoons have short masts and heavy tails, this is a rare scenario in Lagoons. I don't believe there has ever been a case of a capsized lagoon. Shorter lagoons or lagoons with larger sail plans or spinnakers, however, may be at greater risk since they are more likely to rock forward and backward in high waves

[Erdnase]

Originally Posted by ArtM

You can find reports of capsizing via Google. The most common cause is pitch-poling where the nose of the boat is diving into the waves. It's possible for one of the bows to go into the water. The force of the sail, wind, and waves can then drive the boat forward, lifting the rear of the boat and flipping it over in a forward direction.

Because many lagoons have short masts and heavy tails, this is a rare scenario in Lagoons. I don't believe there has ever been a case of a capsized lagoon. Shorter lagoons or lagoons with larger sail plans or spinnakers, however, may be at greater risk since they are more likely to rock forward and backward in high waves

I always imagined a boat can get capsized if a wave hits it from either port or starboard causing it to flip.

Is my lagoon 400 at risk? U reckon?

[ArtM]

Originally Posted by Erdnase

I always imagined a boat can get capsized if a wave hits it from either port or starboard causing it to flip.

Is my lagoon 400 at risk? U reckon?

Not particularly at risk, no. It's extremely unlikely. It's slightly more likely, perhaps, than a 440 flipping, but slightly more than 0% is still 0%. There's essentially a 0% chance of your boat capsizing under ordinary conditions - short of actually being picked up and thrown over by a twister, for example.

[Erdnase]

I have taken complete delivery of my boat.

It's a great boat and I call her "Alvina"

[careka]

Sail safe with Alvina. and join the Lagoon club.

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[Erdnase]

Need advise guys. I own a new lagoon 400 s2. So far I have only used the heads on the starboard and only once or twice on the port side stern toilet.


I own the owners version so it's obvious why this is so.

There is no problem on port side bow toilet but the port side aft toil

[careka]

What is the problem then ? to you toilet ?

[Erdnase]

Sorry my last message was cut off by my computer which posted when I accidentally hit post.


Ok right now each night after no one even went near the toilet, the bowl of the toilet would have a yellowish brown water with a bad smell.

I keep my valve open so all goes to sea

[careka]

That will be the water you bring in from the outside. river og sea. Brown and smelly,
if you dont want that, then bring fresh w. to the bowls, from the boat tanks.

[Erdnase]

Originally Posted by careka

That will be the water you bring in from the outside. river og sea. Brown and smelly,
if you dont want that, then bring fresh w. to the bowls, from the boat tanks.

And risk a bacteria outbreak in the tanks due to direct contact? No thanks

[Erdnase]

Does anyone heard of harsonic? They use a sound frequency to kill off fouling so we don't get fouled.


I need reviews? I am on the brink of ordering one

[ArtM]

Originally Posted by Erdnase

Sorry my last message was cut off by my computer which posted when I accidentally hit post.


Ok right now each night after no one even went near the toilet, the bowl of the toilet would have a yellowish brown water with a bad smell.

I keep my valve open so all goes to sea

Use your shower sprayer or a gallon jug of fresh water to flush the toilet and pump the waste to your holding tank, just as you would at dock.

Every couple of days, dump your holding tank overboard.

No smelly sea water or it's associated problems.

[Catopia]

Originally Posted by ArtM

Use your shower sprayer or a gallon jug of fresh water to flush the toilet and pump the waste to your holding tank, just as you would at dock. Every couple of days, dump your holding tank overboard. No smelly sea water or it's associated problems.

It could be the joker valve which is supposed to stop water from back flowing down the pipe leading to the holding tank. They can get fouled when insufficient flushing is performed with paper etc in the lines. We also had one faulty joker valve on our L450.

[timbenner]

Originally Posted by Erdnase

How do boats like catamarans flip N land on its back?

Anyone can think of a scenario?

There was a 380 on delivery from France to the USA several years ago that broached and flipped. The captain died because he had taken off his survival suite to get some sleep, just before the boat flipped. According to the two survivors, the seas were 40' to 50', which would mean a rogue wave of 60' was possible.

I spent some time researching what equipment might have saved them from broaching in those seas and the best I came up with was the Coast Guards advise. A Jordan Series Drogue. It was invented by Mr. Jordan, in cooperation with the Coast Guard.

If you buy one, be sure to consider how you are going to deploy it and attach it to the boat. The cleats on a 380 won't work for deploying the drogue. The aft cleats are obstructed by stantion rails and the transom cleats would pull out of the hull, because they are facing aft. Cleats are designed for a lateral load, not a load pulling up.

To attach the Jordan Series Drogue to the boat, I installed bollards (superior strength) aft of the stantion rails, on each side, with a foundation tied into the aft bulkhead, gunnels and transom steps. Used fiberglass cloth strips & epoxy resin applied inside the engine room.

Pictures posted on the Yahoo Group Lagoon site under "I Dream of Jeanne". Hope I never have to use the drogue.

tim