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Old 20-01-2015, 15:42   #31
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So let me get this straight.

The owner has hired you to be the captain or whatever of his boat. Part of your responsibility is to be on the boat to supervise work that is performed on the boat by outside contractors.

However, you would prefer to not be bothered with fullfilling your responsibilities. Instead you would rather hire someone for $15USD per day to perform your work for you.

Sounds like a scam to me, but maybe I have it wrong.

How does the owner feel about this? I can't imagine he would be happy about paying you to do a job that you turn around and hire someone else to do for you.

Something tells me he pays you more than 500 Baht to do your job, but again I could have it wrong.

Also, does he know you are asking whomever he agreed to have you hire to do your work for you to make it "look like you are doing something"?

Is that what he hired you for? To make it look like you are doing something?
the retards are really coming out of the woodwork now
this does not even deserve an explanation
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Old 20-01-2015, 16:00   #32
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the retards are really coming out of the woodwork now
this does not even deserve an explanation
Hmm... avoiding answering difficult questions is sometimes the mark of a scam. If you are serious about legitimizing your request, responding to critical comments with useful explanations is in your favour. Otherwise, one is left suspecting that the questions don't have acceptable answers.

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Ha ha. This is fun. Worth the price of admission for sure. The only thing funnier than a grown man resorting to name calling would be if someone forwarded a link to this thread to the boat owner and he fired you for making him look like a schmuck.
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Ha ha. This is fun. Worth the price of admission for sure. The only thing funnier than a grown man resorting to name calling would be if someone forwarded a link to this thread to the boat owner and he fired you for making him look like a schmuck.

Words of glee and an idle threat on a strangers livelihood.

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Maybe be the OP would like to tell us why the following information from a reputable law company who works in the area does not apply to this crew request.

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From time to time it does make the press when a foreigner or a few of them are caught and arrested in Thailand for working without a work permit. Working illegally has many issues for both the employer and employee in Thailand. We have listed the current penalties for working illegally in Thailand.

Offence Penalty Working without a work permit
(Section 51) Imprisonment for 5 years or a fine ranging from 2,000 Baht to 100,000 Baht or both


Having a work permit but engaging in an occupation other than stated in the work permit

(Section 52) A fine not exceeding 20,000 Baht Having a work permit but not having it on you when demanded by the police

(Section 53) A fine not exceeding 10,000 Baht Employing a foreigner without a work permit

(Section 54) A fine not exceeding 100,000 Baht per person.

We have listed the Aliens Act of Thailand below in a PDF format which are the rules that govern the employment of foreigners in Thailand. We have noted a few interesting parts of the Act which are normally very common issues. Note that the government work permit fees are also listed on this website.
Section 7 : The work permit must be for a position that a Thai cannot do and that the position which the foreigner holds as seen as valuable in the development of Thailand. It also notes that you have to state your location of employment meaning you can only work at the location your work permit allows you to work.
Section 8: The foreigner must have a place to stay in Thailand temporary and has not arrived in Thailand as a tourist or a transit passenger. This brings up the issue or converting a tourist visa to a normal visa. This sections rules it out and you see why you have to leave Thailand for a proper visa for the work permit.
Section 24: You must have your work permit on you at all times while at work. As noted above there is a fine for not having your work permit on you while at work.
Working Illegally in Thailand | Thai Work Permit
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Old 21-01-2015, 00:59   #36
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Oh wow - read the stories of foreign OWNERS of bars who so much as change a keg or perform the slightest "work" and how they get shaken down in Thailand by the boys in brown...

Lovely holiday but working vacation? There is no such thing for a farang in Thailand...

If I were in your shoes, I'd look for a "working girl" since they speak some Eng-rlish. Then again, may not be any of those in Phuket willing to work for 500baht a day...
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I am loving this convo, though I nearly choked on my popcorn as I noticed the flamers chime in and attack someone whos "marketing" skills are somewhat limited.

The position he is advertising would be perfectly suited to a backpacker, so yes there is a market for the $15 per day slave/employee. They work for less than that all over asia. Legally and illegally!.

Personally, I think being anchored in Patong bay for month on end would be lumpy and horrid, with bugger all to break the fetch across the Indian Ocean to the west. Chalong would be a much better place. Though maybe not from a business perspective. But thats my personal opinion and its not my boat so, he can park there as long as he likes I guess.

Either way, the guy has a deal to offer. Rightly or wrongly, let him offer it. If he gets some ying to his yang, happy days.
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I am loving this convo, though I nearly choked on my popcorn as I noticed the flamers chime in and attack someone whos "marketing" skills are somewhat limited.

The position he is advertising would be perfectly suited to a backpacker, so yes there is a market for the $15 per day slave/employee. They work for less than that all over asia. Legally and illegally!.

Personally, I think being anchored in Patong bay for month on end would be lumpy and horrid, with bugger all to break the fetch across the Indian Ocean to the west. Chalong would be a much better place. Though maybe not from a business perspective. But thats my personal opinion and its not my boat so, he can park there as long as he likes I guess.

Either way, the guy has a deal to offer. Rightly or wrongly, let him offer it. If he gets some ying to his yang, happy days.

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cannot knock the man when one considers the amount of Delivery skippers who come here looking for paying crew to screw...
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Personally, I think being anchored in Patong bay for month on end would be lumpy and horrid, with bugger all to break the fetch across the Indian Ocean to the west. Chalong would be a much better place. Though maybe not from a business perspective. But thats my personal opinion and its not my boat so, he can park there as long as he likes I guess.
This time of year is northeast monsoon, so you anchor on the west side of Phuket without too much concern about swell from the west.

The awful thing about being anchored off Patong would be all the jet skis during the day and the ump-shi-ump-shi-ump-shi music until 4AM from the bars on shore at night.

When you anchor in Thailand you don't just worry about where the wind is coming from, but where the loud party noises are coming from
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This time of year is northeast monsoon, so you anchor on the west side of Phuket without too much concern about swell from the west.

The awful thing about being anchored off Patong would be all the jet skis during the day and the ump-shi-ump-shi-ump-shi music until 4AM from the bars on shore at night.

When you anchor in Thailand you don't just worry about where the wind is coming from, but where the loud party noises are coming from
Yes you are right there lol. My personal term for Patong is "whores n stores".
Its great for that ten day holiday maker to use as a base. Aside from that, if I never visited it again, I wouldnt miss it. Though I loved the 5 days I spent over at Chalong near the "yacht clubs".
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Words of glee and an idle threat on a strangers livelihood.

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Words of glee? I said I thought it was funny a grown man resorted to calling me a RETARD. Didn't say I was greatly delighted by it. Would you be greatly delighted if someone called you a retard?

Idle threat? I'm not threatening anybody, merely pointing out that name-calling on the internets can potentially have consequences and maybe people should think twice before doing it.

Attacking someone whose marketing skills are limited? I think it has been expressed by at least one other here that if the guy had just listed a couple simple details in the OP no one would be here right now.

To quote Jim Cate back in post #2 "this may be an all time record holder as a meaningless, time wasting post."

Jim, I think you have been proven to be right.
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More I hear about Patong Bay, the more the story of Tom Sawyer suckering his friends into white-washing a picket fence for him comes to mind.

Anyone want to live on a beautiful boat in Thailand? Just contact the OP for details.... .....ump-shi-ump-shi-ump.
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i wish America had working visa rules/laws like thailand's visa laws. Or maybe America does, but has become lawless with regards to visas, besause no one goes to jail for working illegally in America anymore. That is why other countries have strict visa laws to keep people from undermining the welfare of the citizens
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So you charge the paying passengers $3.5K a day and pay the hired help $15 + food <.... I thought slavery had been abolished.

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So you charge the paying passengers $3.5K a day and pay the hired help $15 + food <.... I thought slavery had been abolished.

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