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Old 20-10-2015, 06:09   #46
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Re: 35 to 41 ft Cruising Sailboat

Snore I have looked at this boat, it is nice but it needs a lot of equipment. I will have to rethink this one. Thank you.
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Old 20-10-2015, 18:06   #47
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What is a good diesel? Well ask 10 people you might get at least 5 answers.
I like 4 cylinder diesels with normal (non-turbo) aspiration. Many like 3 cylinder diesels too as many are pretty smooth. So many including Westerbeke have a reputation for being leaky or smoky. Happy to say ours does not leak or smoke!
Its tough to buy a sailboat for its diesel auxiliary engine - at least until you price a new one!
But it's also very tough to determine if the engine has problems without running it under load for hours.
Check oil- if milky or Foamy there could be serious problems. If tar black, that is normal for diesels. If over filled or under filled - that is suspect. Anywhere between the two marks- full and fill are fine. Another trick is if there is closed cooling, remove the radiator cap (while it's cool!) Then start engine and look for bubbles coming up in the antifreeze. If they don't stop soon after starting engine that could be a sih of head gasket leak. Also look for oily film in antifreeze.
Look for smoky exhaust. If a fully warmed up engine (10 degrees or more) still smokes or smokes when in gear and running at higher speeds- could be an issue- or oversized propellor.
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Old 22-10-2015, 09:31   #49
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If you're on a tight budget you may want to consider an Endeavour 37. They made about 500 of them in Florida and most are probably still there. They've got a 4.5 foot draft are ocean worthy and sail fairly well. We're happy with ours in Calif.
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Thank you Paul, is that the one with t he V drive ?
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Ron, I'm not sure what you mean by the V Drive, most of the Endeavours have Perkins 4-108's with 2.5 to 1 hydraulic drive transmissions. Straight shaft etc. The only two fairly unique features of the boat are the interior layout (many come with an "A" plan) configuration, which is the dinette forward instead of a V berth and a private stateroom aft (we really like ours because that dinette converts to a huge bed. And an over sized cockpit coaming, that looks a bit strange, but provides a great sailing cockpit.
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critically discriminating opinion;
the CD is very well constructed, tho,... too narrow, too short WL, thus too small interior. sails ok...but too much wetted surface in my opinion.
the P is ok built, not great..most p's have a v drive... a negative, more complication mechanically, straight drive is much preferred, most P's will not perform in light airs... shortish stick hgt, not enough SA.
E 37 is heavy, good construction, with a short stick, thus SA is lacking..won't move in any light air, tho bowsprit factory option extended foretriangle a bit...guestimate only 20% E37's have this option....still slo
go to sailboatdata.com and compare the numbers...
The H 37 C. cutter sails very well is pretty good constructed with a good design.
The H 36 sloop sails pretty good is constructed a bit less robust than the C. .H 37, but has a too small cockpit...
my '76 Charley Morgan H. WI 36...
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critically discriminating opinion;
the CD is very well constructed, tho,... too narrow, too short WL, thus too small interior. sails ok...but too much wetted surface in my opinion.
the P is ok built, not great..most p's have a v drive... a negative, more complication mechanically, straight drive is much preferred, most P's will not perform in light airs... shortish stick hgt, not enough SA.
E 37 is heavy, good construction, with a short stick, thus SA is lacking..won't move in any light air, tho bowsprit factory option extended foretriangle a bit...guestimate only 20% E37's have this option....still slo
go to sailboatdata.com and compare the numbers...
The H 37 C. cutter sails very well is pretty good constructed with a good design.
The H 36 sloop sails pretty good is constructed a bit less robust than the C. .H 37, but has a too small cockpit...
my '76 Charley Morgan H. WI 36...
What? I think you'll have a lot of Cape Dory owners screaming on that one. There is something lost and something gained to every design. I believe in Skene's there is a metric called "traveling comfort and security plus good sailing performance" to measure a boat. CD will come out high on that. (OK I made that up, but there should be.) I have a skinny long keel boat too and I really appreciate, among other things, its "sea-kindliness," but that is not a criteria that is easy to quantify, though some have tried. For sailing and actually going somewhere, the CDs are very nice. That's MY critically discriminating opinion.
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lol, no prob Don...and to any of the other owners...as my opening 3 words state...
But..please do... go to sailboatdata.com, compare your boats, any boat numbers....very informative...
anyone considering buying a vessel should compare and view this site!!
you can learn a lot.
I do stick by my aforementioned opinions tho...just sayin
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Ok guys, what do you think about a 37 Tartan ? there is a nice one in Fort Myers that an older couple have it is pretty much loaded for $63.000
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Ron, Tartan 37 is a great boat, great design...well built...sails well
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It is at Yachtworld 1982 Tartan 37 in Fort Myers Florida, I don't know how to put the website on here but I would love for someone to have a look and give an opinion.
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Thank you JTHAW, I really like the looks of it
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1982 Tartan 37 Sail Boat For Sale - www.yachtworld.com I think I did it, I am very proud of myself.
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Ron I just looked at the listing....
original owner is a Big plus! actually...huge...
The boat is gorgeous.and obviously loved.....if it meets your needs...and surveys well, you would be proud to own her...I would
so things to check...engine runs well, no smoke, no bad vibrations.. transmission shifts fine..good mounts?... do longish seatrial, maint history log? coolant flushed? etc. when?...
'91 standing rigging may need to be replaced..staylocks are great but wire prob'ly needs replacement..2-3k..
make sure cb,... CB pennant and associated crank work fine...when last serviced? pennant and sheave replaced? when?...
tanks are good? aluminum?...plastic?, leaking? clean bilge?
how old are the sails?..seacocks/thruhulls?...everything works? whats broke and needs fixin?....something does...
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