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Old 09-08-2014, 08:58   #1
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Tigres Windlass. What Type of Chain?

Hello! I have a tigres windlass installed on my Salina. I am in the process of replacing my chain. I read that the gipsy must have on it the info on the type of chain. Unfortunately the gipsy is all worn out, it is impossible to read that info. The printed manual is a generic one...
Any suggestions on how to find out the type of chain I need?
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Old 09-08-2014, 09:17   #2
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Re: tigres windlass. what type of chain?

I dont think there is. NIs your existing chain stamped? You can measure the links but that is tricky. In any event, don't let the gypsy dictate what chain you get. You probably want 3/8 HT. Then id the gypsy doesnt fit, get the proper one.

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Re: tigres windlass. what type of chain?

When I bought my chain I took my gypsy to the supplier, and ran the full 100m through it before I was happy.
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I dont think there is. NIs your existing chain stamped? You can measure the links but that is tricky. In any event, don't let the gypsy dictate what chain you get. You probably want 3/8 HT. Then id the gypsy doesnt fit, get the proper one.

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Chain is all rusted and impossible to read anythong on it. Why do you day I need a 3/8 ht?
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When I bought my chain I took my gypsy to the supplier, and ran the full 100m through it before I was happy.
Impossible. I am in Panama and need to mail order it. Any suggestions?
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Re: tigres windlass. what type of chain?

Judging by the size of your boat. I am in shelter bay. If you want to try your chain on my 3/8 HT gypsy, you're welcome to.

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Re: tigres windlass. what type of chain?

I agree on the 3/8 HT. I got a new gypsy for my Tigres from Imtra. But since you're in Panama, I'd call Marine Warehouse. Or maybe you could have Imtra ship to your chain supplier and they just put it in the drum.

Time for a new anchor too? 80 pounds should be about right...
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Old 09-08-2014, 21:39   #8
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Re: tigres windlass. what type of chain?

My Salina came with a 13mm standard chain. I say 13mm because it came like this new from the factory in France.

I was not happy with the weight of the chain and replaced it with 3/8 HT, nearly half the weight and stronger, never looked back.
It tales less room in the locker and there is no need to spread it out as you bring it in.

Get it all sent to Panama from the USA, both a gypsy for 3/8"HT and chain.
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My Salina came with a 13mm standard chain. I say 13mm because it came like this new from the factory in France.

I was not happy with the weight of the chain and replaced it with 3/8 HT, nearly half the weight and stronger, never looked back.
It tales less room in the locker and there is no need to spread it out as you bring it in.

Get it all sent to Panama from the USA, both a gypsy for 3/8"HT and chain.
Ok. But the weight of the chain is also important. Arent you concerned about this?
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Re: tigres windlass. what type of chain?

Have a look at the following link, it may help you identify what type of chain you have

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From memory, The Tigres can come with 3 or 4 different gypsies, the size of the chain it takes and the part number are stamped on the gypsy BUT on my Falkon the part number is wrong, the size of chain is correct (If you want take the Gypsy off, remember to remove the chain stripper first!!)

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Ok. But the weight of the chain is also important. Arent you concerned about this?
No, while the weight of the chain has some effect, it is your anchor and the total length of the scope that matters more.

I did drag a few times when I had the 26kg anchor and the 13mm chain, never with the 40kg anchor and 10mm chain.
Last month we were in Pago Pago in 48kn gusts, 4 buats went adrift, we slept well!

This is just my opinion, never read it anywhere, but I would say that 1kg of chain would have the same holding power that 10kg of chain.

Should I have been able to buy a chain/rope gypsy, I would have had only 20 to 30m of 10mm chain and 100m of 19mm Nylon rope.
The rope is strong enough, sinks and is elastic, a much appreciated property.
With such a long scope I would have been able to anchor in many deep lagoons in the Society Island where I could not with just 60m of chain. (had the same problem in Turkey), so all in all, I'd go for heavy anchor, short chain + long rope.
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Re: Tigres Windlass. What Type of Chain?

you can always measure the size of chain needed to fit thre gypsy.
i thought males always liked measuring stuff. what is wrong with a measuring tape...
or just remove gypsy and take it shopping for chain so you get it right
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Re: Tigres Windlass. What Type of Chain?

Plenty of places will give you a foot of chain for testing
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Re: Tigres Windlass. What Type of Chain?

I have heard that chains can, "stretch," over time. The links rust and the diameter of the links decreases effectively making the chain slightly longer resulting in it not fitting the gypsy properly.

This could be happening here to the OP with the rusted chain.
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