Saba 50: Owner's Initial Feedback on Hull #2 - Cuvée

[sandymwp]

My husband and I were at the Miami Sail Show last month and actually spent a lot of time on your boat. We were working out the details of our Saba....to be delivered to the Annapolis show in October. My husband handled all the minutiae relating to the mechanics and other systems.....I am more interested in aesthetics. We opted for the six cabin option and will put it in charter in St. Thomas. Did you have a television installed in the salon? I can't remember where the tv might be located there. From what I understand, there are not that many stations and what there are, may be in Spanish. I planned on a TV/DVD combo....looking for what size is feasible. I would appreciate learning from your experience as to what you might do differently now than when you were outfitting your boat. We were able to get an earlier manufacture slot than we originally thought we were, so it may be too late to make any more changes. We did opt for a dishwasher, mounted under the sink.....a one-drawer unit. That is more for me than the charters. I really wanted a washer/dryer, but I was talked out of it....sort of. The charter companies that we spoke with did not recommend them at all. Any advice would be most helpful and appreciated. Thank you....Sandy Peterman, Lenoir City, TN....

[Cuvee]

Hi Sandmwp. Not too many charter companies on St Thomas. Will you be going into CYOA?

Perhaps my own bias but I did not seriously consider putting in a TV, at least while it's in charter. During 25 BVI charters, my crew and I never thought about watching a TV or movie while on the boat even when there was a TV onboard. We would probably bring a tablet with downloaded movies if we wanted to have a movie night.

What's the capacity, runtime, and hot water usage for the dishwasher? If designed to mount under the sink, it seems it would be significantly undersized to handle the dinner cleanup for a crew of 6 to 8+, so they will have to hand wash most of it anyway. It also eliminates the ideal storage area for all the pots and pans.

To help maximize galley storage, we kept the cabinet above the wall oven free for storage instead of installing a built-in microwave. We countertop mounted the microwave to the right of the oven.

I would agree with not installing a washer/dryer - wait until it's out of charter and you decide to keep it for personal use.

[sandymwp]

good point about the tv. frankly, we are not tv watchers and doubt that we would watch movies either. I was thinking about children, actually, more than adults. then again, our grandchildren are electronic loaded, i.e., ipads, ipods, phones. they are more into games than movies anymore, as are most kids anymore.

a friend of ours used to race on the great lakes, but when he gave up his boat, he started chartering cats on tortola from BVI. try as I might, I can't remember what those boats had on them.

Yes, we will be with CYOA. kirk looked at several companies and decided to go with them....based on reputation of boat maintenance and ease of travel to St. Thomas. Living in Knoxville, TN, leaves a lot to be desired in availability of air travel.

the dishwasher is a one drawer unit....we were told that in the upper end boats, it will be a desired feature. who knows???? I don't have the specs on the machine......I assume it will be a fisher-paykel, but I am not sure.

would love to pick your brain as time goes on. I plan on comparing your specs to what we have ordered.....it will be very interesting, as there are so many options and so many differing opinions.

thank you for your reply.'

sandy

[captainjay]

Originally Posted by sandymwp

good point about the tv. frankly, we are not tv watchers and doubt that we would watch movies either. I was thinking about children, actually, more than adults. then again, our grandchildren are electronic loaded, i.e., ipads, ipods, phones. they are more into games than movies anymore, as are most kids anymore.

a friend of ours used to race on the great lakes, but when he gave up his boat, he started chartering cats on tortola from BVI. try as I might, I can't remember what those boats had on them.

Yes, we will be with CYOA. kirk looked at several companies and decided to go with them....based on reputation of boat maintenance and ease of travel to St. Thomas. Living in Knoxville, TN, leaves a lot to be desired in availability of air travel.

the dishwasher is a one drawer unit....we were told that in the upper end boats, it will be a desired feature. who knows???? I don't have the specs on the machine......I assume it will be a fisher-paykel, but I am not sure.

would love to pick your brain as time goes on. I plan on comparing your specs to what we have ordered.....it will be very interesting, as there are so many options and so many differing opinions.

thank you for your reply.'

sandy

Sandy,

Congratulations, we haven't officially met yet but we will soon. Welcome to the CYOA family. Baard is right about the TV, if you really want one I will look around Cuvee tomorrow and let you know where to mount it but honestly it's not necessary. The guests that want video will bring a tablet or laptop.

As for the rest of your equipment, you have already benefited from our experience with Cuvee, as well as hull 2,3 and 6 of the Helia's. Rest assured there have been lots of conversations and emails back and forth between the management at CYOA and your dealer about equipment and options as well as layout and what works and doesn't work.

Cuvee has been getting rave revues, the boat sails like a dream. I did the checkout sail on it last week. 9 Knots in 16 knots of wind. You will have to ask Baard about the "wine cellar".

Jay

[sandymwp]

thanks for your input. TV is off the table.......


have a great day!


sandy

[sandymwp]

although.........the wine cellar sounds very intriguing!

[sandymwp]

For some reason that I don't understand, I am unable to send you a private message.

Could you message me at sandymwp@gmail.com. I have a few questions about the Saba.

Thanks,

Sandy

[peteh007]

Do you for-see any issues installing a bow thruster on a Saba?

[DotDun]

Originally Posted by peteh007

Do you for-see any issues installing a bow thruster on a Saba?

What do expect a bow thruster to do that the engines can't? The pivot point would be the same for both.

[Heath68]

Hi,


Wanted to say hi to this forum. My wife and I were in La Rochelle earlier this year and looked round a maestro version in the harbour. Looking at the Helia I must agree that the extra space is great (given a choice on a 44 the Antares would just nip it imo). The factory were very accommodating and informative and we would have loved the opportunity to see how she sailed.
The Saba (We discounted the Ipanema due to size and short handed-ness) is a great looking cat and one we are hoping to get on board one day. Thanks for all the info on the thread.. it all helps decision making. We're both torn at the min between this and an SF50 but hope to be in a position to decide soon.. Thanks for the thread I will read future posts with interest.

[lagoon100]

Hi, great reports cuvee, i would have some burning questions.

We are looking at the Ipanema 58 for charter and private use, whit skipper on board.

On the Saba the engines are also located below the seen beads is that correct?
Any problems whit smell or fumes from them coming in to the aft cabins, how is the vibration level while at the and using the engines?

Also the bilge from the engine rooms are connected to the main bilge in the hull, any problems whit the engine fumes, smells?

No concerns about the fact that there are no watertight compartments like in lagoon?

any advice is very welcome.

best regards
Marco

[tstano]

What is the air draft?

[Cuvee]

Air draft is about 73.5 ft without the VHF antenna, and 76.5 ft with the VHF antenna.

[Cuvee]

The Saba engines are located in an engine bay that is behind the aft cabins, not under the bunks. There is a thick bulkhead that separates it from the aft cabins.

There are conduit openings in the bulkhead for plumbing and electrical runs to the rest of the boat but these all look to be higher than the top of the engine.

Other than these conduit openings near the top of the bulkhead, the engine and hull bilges are not interconnected. There is a bilge pump in each engine bay, and two bilge pumps per main bilge compartment. Pumps are automatic with alarms.

No engine fumes or smell at all in the cabins.

I'm on the boat today and will take some sound measurements while underway.

[Seppisigh]

Great informative Posts Cuvee. Thank you for your time.
I am curious about your Chartering setup. Which avenue did you take. I have talked to Atlantic-Cruising and I am assuming you did it through them? I would love to know about your experience and any words of advice for someone on the cusp of entering into a similar agreement. I think I have narrowed it down to FP and in particular the Saba and the Ipanema.
Thanks!