We've buddy-boated for the better part of the last two years with a 410, so I'm well acquainted with them, both positives and negatives. Of all of the more recent Lagoons, I think they are one of the best performing Lagoons and are, generally, well made. The older ones (before the S2) seem to have had a better build quality. While those big windows in the cabins let a lot of light in, you absolutely positively can never let a fender
get next to one. Also, some owners have been complaining of the paint
coming off of the trim. Personally, I prefer the original 410 galley layout over the S2, but neither of them have a lot of counter area.
I'm not aware of any osmosis issues that I've heard of in any of them. One of the pet peeves I've heard from several 410 owners is the lack of a rub rail from the factory. I've seen a number where owners have installed their own and this makes a lot of sense.
On my friend's 410, they did a couple of things that made a lot of sense. With the aft salon settee/storage area, they ended up moving it aft about 4 to 6". This really cost nothing in terms of space getting in/out of the salon and greatly helped getting into and out of the eating area.
You will want to replace the factory double helm
seat with the "roll bar" back rest. It is really uncomfortable after a couple of hours. Otherwise, the helm position is quite good.
Carefully inspect the factory dinghy davits
-- apparently there was a large run of them that were weak and if the dinghy
was a bit heavy, they tended to crack, both the davits
and the internal supports.
If a boat you're looking at still has the factory bilge
pumps, just replace them, all of them. (By the way, I do this every year on my boat, anyway. They're not that expensive, they live in a terrible environment
, and they absolutely must be reliable. Seems like cheap insurance
for a critical component.)
On some of the 410's and 380's, Lagoon placed the shower sump
filters in a location that was really hard to reach (under/behind the head's sink) and apparently lots of owners/charter companies just don't bother to clean them out. After a few years of build up, well, they get really smelly and can clog up. Uck. My friend ended up re-routing them.
If you're looking at one with Yanmar
40's, be sure and insist that they change out the water pump
impellors. They are very difficult to reach (my friend and I spent 4-1/2 hours changing out just one) and this is a critical component. Hope you never have to actually change the water pump
, as they put a motor
mount right in the way -- you'll have to jack up the engine
to get the water pump
out. Frankly, the 27's are sufficient for this boat and don't have these problems.
If you have a choice, get a boat with the optional additional fuel tanks
. The standard ones are small (2 X 26 gallons) and having twice the capacity makes a big difference when cruising.
While the 4 berth/4 head boat may appeal to the charter company, if you're really serious about cruising, I think you'll find the owner version much more suitable. They also made a few 4 berth/2 head layouts, too. The heads on the 4 head boat are very small and having "wet heads" (shower in the head) gets really old, really fast when you're living aboard
. The storage
spaces in the owner version are significantly better, too.
Performance wise, the 410 is a pretty good cruising cat. They'll point fine to 45, but then stall out pretty fast if you try and pinch it much past that. They'll consistently do 50 to 60% of wind
speed on a reach, which is just fine. They've got good load carrying ability, but like all cats, you want to be mindful of your loading practices and try and keep the heavy stuff in the middle of the boat.
Sail handling on them is quite good and with some practice, single
handed tacking can be done (a long sheet on the starboard jib
helps in this regard).
If you can find one if the middle of the production range (2000 or after, but before the S2) that has conventional bow rollers and anchor
handling, that is much to be preferred over the original set-up through the lower bridgedeck. I always thought that was a ridiculous place to put an anchor
and my friend confirmed that it is a pain when something gets tangled, the bridle
gets out of whack, or something just goes wrong when anchoring
or bringing it in (which, of course, it eventually will).
I hope you don't think that I'm overly critical of the 410's -- I'm not really. All boats have their problem areas and, all in all, these aren't serious. For what you're looking at, I'm sure a 410 will serve you very nicely. You might want to consider a Hurricane Heater
for our PacNW climate. I have some friends with one that really love it and say it is much quieter and more reliable than their previous Webasto.
Hope this helps.