Originally Posted by yeloya
I have a sailed IMS mono and cat, classical main mono and cat, hence I can compare.
In mono it's less dangereous as the boat
can heel and discharge some of extra blow. The biggest problem in mono is the lost
of shape , end result you cannot go upwind or you tack to 120 degrees. Obviously I am not talking about Grand Soleil or X yachts that don't use IMS (maybe there are but haven't seen yet any) but Beneteau
For the OP who said "I haven't seen any IMS jammed", I have seen many as a charter
operator. You may think of lack of experience or care for charter
customers but 8 years ago an older french couple in circumnavigation
have been cought to 60 kts of wind
near Kas and they couldn't take the main in which was jammed. They were about to die and CG saved them at the very last attempt.
I also see now cats or monos with IMS and self tacking gib which is a terrible combination, one simply cannot sail on these boats unless you have 20 kts of wind
from the beam..
Hmmm....not sure about much of what you say. Cant go upwind? The mainsail
is only one factor that determines upwind ability and I can asure you my boat
points quite high, it has very good windward ability, thus we differ on this view.
Regarding your experience with both inmast and traditional, i said "most" detractors of inmast furlers have little experience if any with them because I know some have owned and sailed both, im one of those, but that dosent change the fact that many (most)comment with zero experience behind their claims.
I spent 8 mths around the Seychelles
charter fleet and also much time around charters in Thailand
. My experience from watching them daily is they can screw just about anything up, they have talent
The only ims i saw jammed was a charter boat. Ive also heard maydays called for fouled anchors thus a small percentage of charter boats jamming a sail is irrelevant imho regarding this subject.
The 60 year old couple that nearly died because of a jammed sail? Thats one story out of how many crusiers that use them safely while circumnavigating the world? I know a guy that pitch
poled a catamaran
, yet i know many more that have never done such a thing, does this mean cats are no good?
I'll give one example that i know of. The owner of a sister ship of mine (Catalina 470) had a inmast furler
. He comes from a racing
back ground and decided when it was time to buy a new sail he would convert to a batterned slap reefed main, which he did. After several years of sailing it hes changing back tonthe ims because he prefers the convience over the small increase in performance he got from the traditional setup. Same boat, same owner, Id say he has the points on the board to compare apples to apples. Hes not racing
, hes cruising.
Im currently quite remote
, surprised i have internet
. Im with 8 yachts preparing to cross to South Africa
. I just counted how many monos in the anchorage have furlers , one traditional slab reef , one boom furler
and five inmast furlers. If they are that bad why are so many world crusiers using them safely?