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Old 02-10-2024, 23:30   #1
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Where to buy a used sextant to practice?

Hi,
I’m teaching myself celestial navigation and I’m getting the concepts down. I’d like to pick up a sextant to get some practical experience. Ebay is loaded with a lot of sextants, many from dubious looking sources. Prices literally range ftom $10 to $3000 or more online.

What exactly should I be looking for? Is there any chance the cheaper ones work and are accurate, of are they likely junk? Also shouldn’t it be fairly easy to test a sextant for accuracy if you already know your coordinates via GPS and have an almanac?
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Hi I realise you have been overwhelmed with replies however as an inexpert...Old mechanical devices were quite high in precision and the users also...if you know the history for example of the Sphinx from 36000 years ago and the incredibly accurate line up of pyramids with Orion and celestial objects you'd know it. I doubt I'd buy a new one unless I made serious investigation as to its heritage and reviews. I realise that's a general comment...but sextants come up at auctions...and a lot of stuff today is made in India to look 'antique' . Finding an organisation of person who can examine and test one you may like..or buy...would be an early search I'd be doing.
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Your question is best asked on the Navigation forum, especially this thread.
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Zachduckworth....


you might want to ask the moderators of the forum to move the thread.

The "Attention" traffic sign down left in the post.....
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Re: Where to buy a used sextant to practice?

Here is an example of a modern Sextant at a reasonable price.


http://https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/14...Bk9SR_zUjpbKZA


You can still pick up a Davis sextant for reasonable cost.


https://www.davisinstruments.com/pro...ark-15-sextant


You can also pick up a Davis Plastic Sextant which are good for practice and are pretty useful as a back up on board. Keep in mind that sextant navigation is "very" inaccurate by modern standards. Close enough


https://www.davisinstruments.com/pro...pr_seq=uniform
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Re: Where to buy a used sextant to practice?

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Hi,
I’m teaching myself celestial navigation ...
Good for you, it's not that difficult. There are basically two method types, using tables or using trigonometry.
Tables are much easier.
But the trig maths isn't too difficult, especially basic Sun sights.
Learn both methods.
You'll also need an Almanac for planet and star times etc.

And as someone else points out, getting a fix within a mile or so is about the best you can expect. And it's very satisfying. And I remember the days when GPS was only accurate to within about the same. I think it was Clinton? who made the decision to provide military precision to all users in his last days of his Presidency, (even those of us from other countries).

A group from our boat Club learnt together, and we did much practising at the beach with the setting sun (when I learnt it was too far to go to a beach where we could see the sunrise). Had a lot of fun learning. We paid some old salt to teach us. Drank quite a bit of wine after the Sun had set too if my memory serves.

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What exactly should I be looking for? Is there any chance the cheaper ones work and are accurate, of are they likely junk? Also shouldn’t it be fairly easy to test a sextant for accuracy if you already know your coordinates via GPS and have an almanac?
I found that there were many units for sale that are actually just reproductions designed as office ornaments. Be careful and search the make/model to ensure whatever you find for sale is in fact a 'real' sextant.

I have a Davis Mark 3 as a backup. And yes it's made of some sort of high grade plastic but gives excellent results. I think that the Mark 15 and 25 are in fact made of some type of metal.
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Re: Where to buy a used sextant to practice?

Check this recent thread
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Re: Where to buy a used sextant to practice?

I inherited a Leupold made 10-13-44 for the US Maritime Commission that I need to list in the classifieds here.

It and the wooden box look just like two I see on eBay, but mine, and the box too, is in much better condition than those, from all appearances.

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How does one tell that a used sextant hasn't been damaged?
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How does one tell that a used sextant hasn't been damaged?

by testing it


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How does one tell that a used sextant hasn't been damaged?
Initially by inspection.
Then by checking for the three errors - Index, Side, and Perpendicularity.
How to check them is quite well described here
https://maritimesa.org/nautical-scie...ir-correction/
There will inevitably be a bit of index error, under 1'. If you find index error of say 10' you know things probably aren't going to end well.

I bought one once about 25 years ago, sight unseen, international so no real recourse. It was an absolute shocker , only fit for an ornament. We live and learn.
That said you are probably safer buying from one of the reputable Indian shipbreaking sites than privately.

I bought one from this fellow a few months ago, he seems to have cornered the market in ex - RAN sextants. I would recommend him.
https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/32629301...Bk9SR4yVz7D0ZA
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Initially by inspection.
Then by checking for the three errors - Index, Side, and Perpendicularity.
How to check them is quite well described here
https://maritimesa.org/nautical-scie...ir-correction/
There will inevitably be a bit of index error, under 1'. If you find index error of say 10' you know things probably aren't going to end well.

I bought one once about 25 years ago, sight unseen, international so no real recourse. It was an absolute shocker , only fit for an ornament. We live and learn.
That said you are probably safer buying from one of the reputable Indian shipbreaking sites than privately.

I bought one from this fellow a few months ago, he seems to have cornered the market in ex - RAN sextants. I would recommend him.
https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/32629301...Bk9SR4yVz7D0ZA
Mostly seems to be ornamental repro stuff, and the "item specifics" are notably lacking in specifics.


I'd think for actual use you would be better off with the Davis plastic models described here


https://www.pbo.co.uk/gear/best-sext...on-sight-70942


Or you can apparently make one from a CD.


https://www.tecepe.com.br/nav/cdsextantproject.htm


https://duckworksmagazine.com/16/howto/sextant/
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