Cruisers Forum
 


Reply
  This discussion is proudly sponsored by:
Please support our sponsors and let them know you heard about their products on Cruisers Forums. Advertise Here
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Rate Thread Display Modes
Old 04-03-2021, 17:40   #46
Registered User
 
rgleason's Avatar

Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Boston, MA
Boat: 1981 Bristol 32 Sloop
Posts: 17,632
Images: 2
Re: Raspberry Pi w/ OpenCPN

BTW Microsoft win10 allows you to control updates and even disable them until you are on shore with a good connection. Which I generally do.
rgleason is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-03-2021, 00:54   #47
Registered User

Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Netherlands
Boat: Halmatic 30
Posts: 1,106
Re: Raspberry Pi w/ OpenCPN

Quote:
Originally Posted by rgleason View Post
BTW Microsoft win10 allows you to control updates and even disable them until you are on shore with a good connection. Which I generally do.

But when you are near the shore you are not able to switch off the unannounced updates. With changes to your system. Recently a message from Actisense, that there recent driver did no longer worked after an Windows W10 update.

How about MS looking in your system unattendend and gain access to your data. Not only telematric data but also text and other files. The owner of your system lives in Redmond.
verkerkbr is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-03-2021, 01:00   #48
Registered User
 
Franziska's Avatar

Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Panschwitz, Germany
Boat: Woods Mira 35 Catamaran
Posts: 4,261
Re: Raspberry Pi w/ OpenCPN

Not sure I prefer another company from C. which denies me a lot of things which I may want to do with the system I bought because of their system of preventative measures before the fact.

Agree though, forced updates are never nice.

Quote:
Originally Posted by verkerkbr View Post
But when you are near the shore you are not able to switch off the unannounced updates. With changes to your system. Recently a message from Actisense, that there recent driver did no longer worked after an Windows W10 update.

How about MS looking in your system unattendend and gain access to your data. Not only telematric data but also text and other files. The owner of your system lives in Redmond.
__________________
www.ladyrover.com
Franziska is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-03-2021, 03:22   #49
Registered User

Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Lelystad, The Netherlands
Boat: vd Stadt 44, Ben the Boat
Posts: 233
Re: Raspberry Pi w/ OpenCPN

Auto-update on Windows can be disabled easily. Just Google!

The thing that bothers me are stupid statements like:
"How about MS looking in your system unattendend and gain access to your data. Not only telematric data but also text and other files. The owner of your system lives in Redmond."

This is wappie behavior, I don't mind if you are thinking it but don't put those statements in public fora.
champ8242 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-03-2021, 03:39   #50
Registered User
 
Franziska's Avatar

Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Panschwitz, Germany
Boat: Woods Mira 35 Catamaran
Posts: 4,261
Re: Raspberry Pi w/ OpenCPN

Yep it can, but unfortunately not indefinitely afaik. Apart from that I'm a happy win10 user. Works fine for me.
Quote:
Originally Posted by champ8242 View Post
Auto-update on Windows can be disabled easily. Just Google!

The thing that bothers me are stupid statements like:
"How about MS looking in your system unattendend and gain access to your data. Not only telematric data but also text and other files. The owner of your system lives in Redmond."

This is wappie behavior, I don't mind if you are thinking it but don't put those statements in public fora.
__________________
www.ladyrover.com
Franziska is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-03-2021, 04:12   #51
Registered User

Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Netherlands
Boat: Halmatic 30
Posts: 1,106
Re: Raspberry Pi w/ OpenCPN

Quote:
Originally Posted by champ8242 View Post
Auto-update on Windows can be disabled easily. Just Google!

The thing that bothers me are stupid statements like:
"How about MS looking in your system unattendend and gain access to your data. Not only telematric data but also text and other files. The owner of your system lives in Redmond."

This is wappie behavior, I don't mind if you are thinking it but don't put those statements in public fora.
The Dutch governament have given an independent research company the task to look at the MS data collecting from the Win10 systems. This information is send encrypted to the MS servers.

The idea was, it is only for telemetric purposes to see of the systems works well. But is goes much further. Also other details, even textfiles are unseen uploaded.

Also changes are made to your software. Your prefered browser is suddenly changed to the MS browser Edge.

In the past a lot of GPS mouses did no longer work after the update. That could be resolved to use the old firmware. Next update the working firmware was removed again.

What if your navigation software stops working because of an update by MS ?

Switching off the upgrades is almost impossible.

No information is given what is updated or removed.

Your navigation systems must be reliable with no interference from unattended upgrades.
verkerkbr is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-03-2021, 03:51   #52
Registered User

Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Lelystad, The Netherlands
Boat: vd Stadt 44, Ben the Boat
Posts: 233
Re: Raspberry Pi w/ OpenCPN

Quote:
Originally Posted by verkerkbr View Post
Also changes are made to your software. Your prefered browser is suddenly changed to the MS browser Edge.
This is for commercial reasons, don't you think so?

The rest is more perception and not reality. Again, not for this forum or thread.

Ps, if you disable the update service, MS won't do auto-updates anymore unless a new version is installed (manually!)
champ8242 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-03-2021, 04:25   #53
Registered User

Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Netherlands
Boat: Halmatic 30
Posts: 1,106
Re: Raspberry Pi w/ OpenCPN

Do a simple search on Google to find out what is grabbed from your system. Win10 data collection.

Give details where to find a methode to shut-off this unattented updates permanently.

If drivers for navigation equipment suddenly do no longer work after the upgrade, the OS is not fit for navigation.
verkerkbr is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-03-2021, 10:34   #54
Registered User

Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: Orust Sweden
Boat: Najad 34
Posts: 4,147
Re: Raspberry Pi w/ OpenCPN

Just for fun..
After a resent Rasbian update the Openplotter moitessier-hat was no longer working. We had to await a Rocco update.
So, MS is in "good company".
Hakan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-03-2021, 10:55   #55
Registered User

Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Netherlands
Boat: Halmatic 30
Posts: 1,106
Re: Raspberry Pi w/ OpenCPN

Quote:
Originally Posted by Hakan View Post
Just for fun..
After a resent Rasbian update the Openplotter moitessier-hat was no longer working. We had to await a Rocco update.
So, MS is in "good company".
Hi Hakan, that can sometimes happen. But you are the boss of your RaspiOS and computer system and choose what and when to upgrade.

And important, the RaspiOS don't look in your system what your doing, your contacts, the visited sites, your keystrokes and so on and on.

But as a user you can not cannot complain, because you have agreed with the conditions in the Eula. Software as a service, for the user or ?

Regards,


Bram
verkerkbr is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-03-2021, 11:05   #56
Registered User

Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: Orust Sweden
Boat: Najad 34
Posts: 4,147
Re: Raspberry Pi w/ OpenCPN

Bram..
Yes you're of course correct. We all have agreed to every conditions. No doubts. Read or not. All use of a system made by others are by choice, that's up to each and every one to find what fits.
Håkan
Hakan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 22-03-2021, 21:24   #57
Registered User

Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: South coast USA
Boat: B&B Yacht Designs 25 ft cat ketch
Posts: 12
Re: Raspberry Pi w/ OpenCPN

Hi all, i had a perfectly operating copy of OpenCPN on the micro card, I did a full install of RaspberryOS when i upgraded to a SSD. Now when i try to reload a fresh copy of OpenCPN i get this response.

sudo apt install opencpn
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
Package opencpn is not available, but is referred to by another package.
This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
is only available from another source

E: Package 'opencpn' has no installation candidate
pi@raspberrypi:~ $

Anybody have any suggestions?

As always, I thought a SSD drive in a Argon 1 M2 casr would be just the ticket on my sailboat but.....

best to all
Jay
jknight611 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 23-03-2021, 00:26   #58
Registered User

Join Date: Dec 2018
Location: Sneek, Netherlands
Boat: Compromis 777
Posts: 12
Re: Raspberry Pi w/ OpenCPN

what os is on your raspberry pi400?


https://opencpn.org/wiki/dokuwiki/do...spberrypi_rpi2

https://opencpn.org/wiki/dokuwiki/do...ion:ubuntu_ppa

also an option :
https://forum.openmarine.net/showthread.php?tid=3149
openplotter
NielsvdB is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 23-03-2021, 17:14   #59
Registered User

Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: South coast USA
Boat: B&B Yacht Designs 25 ft cat ketch
Posts: 12
Re: Raspberry Pi w/ OpenCPN

Thank you! I thought I had replied this morning, but I don’t see the response. I did as you suggested, option 3, all good now.

Jay
jknight611 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-04-2021, 03:42   #60
wxx
Registered User

Join Date: Apr 2021
Posts: 1
Re: Raspberry Pi w/ OpenCPN

I'm trying to install OpenCPN on a PI3.
I'm following install instructions found on the site.
The last cmd gives me errors I can't fix.
------
sudo apt-get install opencpn
Lettura elenco dei pacchetti... Fatto
Generazione albero delle dipendenze
Lettura informazioni sullo stato... Fatto
Alcuni pacchetti non possono essere installati. Questo può voler dire
che è stata richiesta una situazione impossibile oppure, se si sta
usando una distribuzione in sviluppo, che alcuni pacchetti richiesti
non sono ancora stati creati o sono stati rimossi da Incoming.
Le seguenti informazioni possono aiutare a risolvere la situazione:

I seguenti pacchetti hanno dipendenze non soddisfatte:
opencpn : Dipende: libcurl3 (>= 7.16.2) ma non è installabile
Dipende: libwxgtk-webview3.0-0v5 (>= 3.0.2+dfsg) ma non è installabile
Raccomanda: xcalib ma non sta per essere installato
Raccomanda: opencpn-doc ma non sta per essere installato
E: Impossibile correggere i problemi, ci sono pacchetti danneggiati bloccati.
------

Any help ?
Tnx
Roberto
wxx is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
enc, opencpn


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
OpenCPN on Raspberry PI Raspbian Captain_Steve OpenCPN 12 08-02-2015 10:45
Comproblem on Raspberry Pi and OpenCPN vagspel OpenCPN 4 26-12-2012 05:01
Raspberry Pi and OpenCPN 3.1.915 spillemw OpenCPN 20 24-09-2012 02:30
Raspberry PI compiles OpenCPN monstads OpenCPN 7 15-03-2012 12:41
The Perfect Platform for OpenCPN ? Raspberry Pi night0wl OpenCPN 10 08-09-2011 19:09

Advertise Here


All times are GMT -7. The time now is 15:01.


Google+
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Social Knowledge Networks
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.

ShowCase vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.