OpenCPN Version 5.8.0 - Radar V5.5.0 not working

[Hakan]

Hakan...
Do plugins work for you with the default setting for the system type? And what type is shown in the PM settings as default?

This is a odd beast where I tried to update from Buster to Bullseye on the fly. No success.
This is my SK test-server where I also have a InfluxDB and Grafana so I don't want to do the obvious solution for a working nav-system: A new OpenPlotter image.
Default PM system: (on home brewed O beta 5.7.x)

Rasbian armhf 11 (So obviously not much found)

Not many master plugins found. o-charts + five more. Not radar_pi.

[nohal]

what exactly you get from

file /usr/bin/opencpn ; apt info opencpn

?

[SirChaunchy]

Originally Posted by nohal

And one more thing what exactly you get from

file /usr/bin/opencpn ; apt info opencpn

Should look like this:

file /usr/bin/opencpn ; apt info opencpn
/usr/bin/opencpn: ELF 64-bit LSB pie executable, ARM aarch64, version 1 (GNU/Linux), dynamically linked, interpreter /lib/ld-linux-aarch64.so.1, BuildID[sha1]=e6f027042e819b718364b632c02a624f1e745cd5, for GNU/Linux 3.7.0, stripped
Package: opencpn
Version: 5.8.0+7961+0b3b41713~ubuntu20.04.1
Priority: extra
Section: misc
Maintainer: Pavel Kalian <pavel@kalian.cz>
Installed-Size: 54.3 MB
Provides: opencpn-plugin-chartdldr, opencpn-plugin-wmm
Depends: libarchive13 (>= 3.0.4), libbz2-1.0, libc6 (>= 2.29), libcairo2 (>= 1.2.4), libcurl4 (>= 7.16.2), libelf1 (>= 0.131), libexif12 (>= 0.6.21-1~), libexpat1 (>= 2.0.1), libgcc-s1 (>= 4.2), libgl1, libglew2.1 (>= 1.12.0), libglib2.0-0 (>= 2.12.0), libglu1-mesa | libglu1, liblz4-1 (>= 0.0~r113), liblzma5 (>= 5.1.1alpha+20120614), libpango-1.0-0 (>= 1.22.0), libpangocairo-1.0-0 (>= 1.14.0), libportaudio2 (>= 19+svn20101113), libsndfile1 (>= 1.0.20), libsqlite3-0 (>= 3.7.3), libssl1.1 (>= 1.1.0), libstdc++6 (>= 9), libtinyxml2.6.2v5, libudev1 (>= 183), libunarr1 (>= 1.0.0), libusb-1.0-0 (>= 2:1.0.16), libwxbase3.0-0v5 (>= 3.0.4+dfsg), libwxgtk-webview3.0-gtk3-0v5 (>= 3.0.4+dfsg), libwxgtk3.0-gtk3-0v5 (>= 3.0.4+dfsg-10~), zlib1g (>= 1:1.2.3.4), wx3.0-i18n
Recommends: xcalib, xdg-utils, opencpn-doc, opencpn-sglock-amd64, opencpn-sglock-arm64, opencpn-sglock-arm32, libusb-0.1-4
Conflicts: opencpn-plugin-chartdldr, opencpn-plugin-wmm
Breaks: opencpn-gshhs-crude (<< 5.8.0+7961+0b3b41713~ubuntu20.04.1), opencpn-tcdata (<< 5.8.0+7961+0b3b41713~ubuntu20.04.1)
Replaces: opencpn-data (<< 5.8.0+7961+0b3b41713~ubuntu20.04.1), opencpn-gshhs-crude (<< 5.8.0+7961+0b3b41713~ubuntu20.04.1), opencpn-plugin-chartdldr, opencpn-plugin-wmm, opencpn-tcdata (<< 5.8.0+7961+0b3b41713~ubuntu20.04.1)
Download-Size: 12.2 MB
APT-Manual-Installed: yes
APT-Sources: http://ppa.launchpad.net/opencpn/opencpn/ubuntu focal/main arm64 Packages
Description: Concise chartplotter and navigation software
 OpenCPN is a free software (GPLv2) project to create a concise chartplotter and navigation software for use as an underway or planning tool.  OpenCPN is developed by a team of active sailors using real world conditions for program testing and refinement.

I'm attaching a screenshot of the terminal below. It interesting that in the APT-Sources line toward the end mine says /main armhf packages and yours says arm64 packages.

[nohal]

OK, so you have a multilib system and are running the 32bit version of OpenCPN on it. How did you manage to make your system multilib? The OpenPlotter image I asked you to install is 64 bit only. Is it possible that you instead made a copy of your card with the original 32bit system and somehow upgraded it to the 64bit version?

[nohal]

Anyway, for what you have installed ubuntu-gtk3-armhf:18.04 is a correct system identifier and all the plugins you get offered for it should work. The plugins you don't get offered do not exist for it.

[SirChaunchy]

Originally Posted by nohal

OK, so you have a multilib system and are running the 32bit version of OpenCPN on it. How did you manage to make your system multilib? The OpenPlotter image I asked you to install is 64 bit only. Is it possible that you instead made a copy of your card with the original 32bit system and somehow upgraded it to the 64bit version?

I started with my existing 5.6.2 chip running on a 32 bit system running Open Plotter. I used the OpenCPN installer to upgrade from 5.6.2 to 5.8.0. Then I used the following commands to update from Buster to Bullseye (see attached image)

[nohal]

Then it's clear, this workflow of course did not magically change your system and all your software including OpenCPN to 64bit versions, it just upgraded your 32bit Buster to 32bit Bullseye.

To get a 64bit system, take an empty SD card, install a 64bit OS on it, install software you want to use, copy your data to it.

But again, what you are running now should work just fine and you have no problem, it just isn't a 64bit system. It is running on a 64bit hardware, but in fact it is 32bit system.

[SirChaunchy]

Originally Posted by nohal

Then it's clear, this workflow of course did not magically change your system and all your software including OpenCPN to 64bit versions, it just upgraded your 32bit Buster to 32bit Bullseye.

To get a 64bit system, take an empty SD card, install a 64bit OS on it, install software you want to use, copy your data to it.

But again, what you are running now should work just fine and you have no problem, it just isn't a 64bit system. It is running on a 64bit hardware, but in fact it is 32bit system.

OK, good. That's all useful information. I'll take the chip that seems to be at least working right now to the boat and see if it actually links up with the radar and other instruments. Thank you so much for your help so far.

I did install a brand new 64 bit operating system on a blank chip and then OpenPlotter on it. I think the attached image shows it is actually running 64 bit and I have OpenCPN 5.8.0 running on it too. I'm suspicious though because when I go to the Opetions/plugins/settings and look at the default, it says debian-arm64:11 and not many plugins are offered. If I choose debian-arm64:12, however all the plugins do appear and it looks like I can enable them and there is a radar 5.5.0 plugin there. Am I on the right track here and if so can I just copy my "Charts" folder over from my current system to this one and, if so, do you know where the charts folder is in this new setup. It doesn't seem to be in the same place as the old one.

[SirChaunchy]

I have one additional problem in this path where I started with a blank chip, installed a 64 bit OS, new Open Plotter, etc. Using the OpenCPN Installer I was able to supposedly install the new 5.8.0-0 and open it and run it, but when I shut it down and reopen it by clicking on the OpenCPN symbol in the tool bar at the top of the screen, 5.6.2 reopens. I must be missing a step in saving the newly installed 5.8.0-0

[nohal]

I have no idea what that installer does and whether this is intended, but if you right-click on that toolbar you can reconfigure it to include launchers for anything you want in "Application Launch Bar Settings".
I do not believe you may install the two versions of OpenCPN side by side in any other way but using both version from the debian repository and flatpak, so the launcher you have probably starts the normal packaged version and you have no launcher for the flatpak.

[SirChaunchy]

Originally Posted by nohal

I have no idea what that installer does and whether this is intended, but if you right-click on that toolbar you can reconfigure it to include launchers for anything you want in "Application Launch Bar Settings".
I do not believe you may install the two versions of OpenCPN side by side in any other way but using both version from the debian repository and flatpak, so the launcher you have probably starts the normal packaged version and you have no launcher for the flatpak.

That seemed to work. I deleted the launcher symbol that was in the tool bar and just used the pull down under the raspberry symbol and under the Open Plotter menu it has the option to OpenCPN FP and that opens the newly installed OpenCPN 5.8.0-0. When that's open and I go to Options/plugins/settings it shows 'flatpak-aarch64:22.08'. It does have the plugins available and I'm able to enable them. Now I have to set up everything fromscratch. The most ominous task is the charts because I have hundreds of them. Can I just copy my "Charts" folder over from my current system to this one and, if so, do you know where the charts folder is in this new setup. It doesn't seem to be in the same place as the old one.

[nohal]

Charts can be anywhere where the user running OpenCPN has access. Most of the people put them under their home directory. Then go to the Toolbox in OpenCPN and point it to that location on the Charts tab. In the simplest case about 10 mouse clicks in total.

[SirChaunchy]

Originally Posted by nohal

Charts can be anywhere where the user running OpenCPN has access. Most of the people put them under their home directory. Then go to the Toolbox in OpenCPN and point it to that location on the Charts tab. In the simplest case about 10 mouse clicks in total.

I've copied the Charts folder to my home directory, but I don't see the Toolbox in OpenCPN you mentioned. Can you give me directions for finding that toolbox?

[nohal]

Toolbox is where you do all the settings, you have been there setting up plugins probably a few more time than you would like in the past few days. Charts are set up on the tab named "Charts"