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02-07-2020, 08:02
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Merge co-located waypoints
If you make many routes in Open CPN, it happens that some waypoints will be included in several. For example, outside the home port, many routes meet at a common approach point.
If you are careful when pointing with the arrow when building new routes, you can capture a previous waypoint so that it is also included in the new route, but if you fail to point exactly right, a new waypoint is created in almost the same place.
The same problem occurs if you want to insert an existing waypoint into an existing route. I have found no method to achieve this.
It would be useful to be able to merge several waypoints that are co-located in the 'same' place, because then nearby route lines will also run together, and if you want to adjust a waypoint that is part of several routes, all of them will adjust.
Does anyone know if there is a technique for this?
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04-07-2020, 05:55
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Re: Merge co-located waypoints
The answer is no. I think you should make a feature request in tracker and vote for it and get others to vote so it become vetted!
See the opencpn.org website, top menu Tracker. You have to register.
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04-07-2020, 07:43
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Re: Merge co-located waypoints
There is already a Feature Request that is similar. See https://opencpn.org/flyspray/index.p...s&task_id=2648
Furthermore there is a pull request to git with suggested code to solve this.
https://github.com/OpenCPN/OpenCPN/pull/1959
Note however that there is a feature freeze for the current beta development. So this proposed change will, most likely, not make it to the next version of OpenCPN 5.2.
Perhaps to version 5.4.
Why not vote for #FS2648 in the tracker?
Thomas
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21-01-2021, 15:03
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Re: Merge co-located waypoints
At the risk of resurrecting an old thread, i have discovered one way to do this. I created several routes over the same area (various courses for a race series) and in a few cases I missed the use close mark dialog.
What I did was close OpenCPN and open the directory where navobj.xml is stored, and then opened navobj.xml in a simple text editor. Then I carefully found the <rtept> </rtept> sections representing the waypoint I wanted to insert and then went to the route I was trying to modify (<rte></rte>) and pasted in the code from the desired waypoint. It worked fine.
I know that's probably a bit cryptic, but have a look at the navobj.xml file and you should see it there.
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26-08-2022, 08:14
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Re: Merge co-located waypoints
Your suggestion worked very well - @abarrow
If anyone is looking the location of navobj.xml in windows is:
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27-08-2022, 02:05
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Re: Merge co-located waypoints
Quote:
Originally Posted by Me1982
Your suggestion worked very well - @abarrow
If anyone is looking the location of navobj.xml in windows is:
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The Housekeeper script for the JavaScript plugin will merge co-located waypoints, having invited you to choose which one to keep. See this thread.
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30-07-2024, 09:42
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Re: Merge co-located waypoints
I have a feeling that this request is taken care of by the developers somehow in later versions of OpenCPN. I cannot find it in the documentation though.
If I now move a second waypoints close to an already existing one in another route I get the question if I want to merge them. This works ok, but I sometimes when the waypoint in question is in a fork between two routes I get a follow up question like: 'skall hela rutten läggas till den flyttade rutten' /"is the complete route to be added in the moved route"/.
Can anyone explain how this is to be understood?
Which leg in the "fork" is related to here?
Which end of the original route will be added and in which "tail"?
As I understand there are several possibilities?
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30-07-2024, 10:24
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Re: Merge co-located waypoints
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Originally Posted by ebonita
If I now move a second waypoints close to an already existing one in another route I get the question if I want to merge them. This works ok, but I sometimes when the waypoint in question is in a fork between two routes I get a follow up question like: 'skall hela rutten läggas till den flyttade rutten' /"is the complete route to be added in the moved route"/.
Can anyone explain how this is to be understood?
Which leg in the "fork" is related to here?
Which end of the original route will be added and in which "tail"?
As I understand there are several possibilities?
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Please review in detail the manual where this is all dealt with in detail.
Then ask questions. Thanks.
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30-07-2024, 11:11
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Re: Merge co-located waypoints
Thank you RGLEASON, but this I have of course already tried to do without success.
Using OpenCPN on another language makes it sometimes difficult to find correct search words for the manual, and makes normal googling less effective.
But since you know where the answer is to find possibly you could send a more precice suggestion where to look och maybe even send me a link?.
Thank you in advance!
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31-07-2024, 03:11
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Re: Merge co-located waypoints
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31-07-2024, 12:53
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Re: Merge co-located waypoints
Thank you RGLEASON, that clearyfies things a bit.
Staffan
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01-08-2024, 03:21
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Re: Merge co-located waypoints
Staffan..
If you think the Swedish translation can be expressed in another way to make it more clear please advice. I might have time to edit before version 5.10 is released?
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01-08-2024, 03:43
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Re: Merge co-located waypoints
Thank you Hakan, but I am satisfied with the answer and it helped me to solve my problem.
OpenCPN is a very comprehensive and competent navigational program but this also makes it complex.
A problem for 'forein language speaking users' is that the appropriate search words are not always obvios. The same problem occurs when trying to search other forums for instance the very good Norwegian forum "Baatplassen".
But as ABBA sang 'thank you for the music....'
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05-08-2024, 08:26
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Re: Merge co-located waypoints
Quote:
Originally Posted by ebonita
Thank you Hakan, but I am satisfied with the answer and it helped me to solve my problem.
OpenCPN is a very comprehensive and competent navigational program but this also makes it complex.
A problem for 'forein language speaking users' is that the appropriate search words are not always obvios. The same problem occurs when trying to search other forums for instance the very good Norwegian forum "Baatplassen".
But as ABBA sang 'thank you for the music....'
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Since we now have the Basic Manual done, it may be possible to start developing translated versions. Dokuwiki has that capability to host multiple languages, provided there are online editors willing to help.
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06-08-2024, 00:29
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Re: Merge co-located waypoints
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Originally Posted by rgleason
Since we now have the Basic Manual done, it may be possible to start developing translated versions. Dokuwiki has that capability to host multiple languages, provided there are online editors willing to help.
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Something like Deepl might help as an overall or per individual
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