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David_Old_Jersey · 12-05-2010, 12:13

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Originally Posted by MarkJ

Well, I have done 2 more then.

Plust the Adratic soon that makes 6 of 9

I'll settle for that.

Mark

I'd settle for 7 of 9

"Live long and prosper"

SouthernSpeed · 12-05-2010, 18:56

Thank you for many suggestions and being a big help to this thread and my future. I truly can't explain why I want to do this, I just want, it's becoming a need, to. As for my experience - cruising. As I have been thinking about this, I want a boat that can keep me safe. Performance isn't a big issue, although I don't want a slug. And for refitting, I only have two years. In the two years, I need to get used to the boat, build confidence in it, and prep it. I don't want to put myself on an unreal schedule so I am being as realistic as possible. As for many different designs, it allows me to learn more, and I simply like, basically, all designs. So, would you guys take in Ovni 345 round'? It seems to be the only one in my $ range.

**boatman61** · 13-05-2010, 02:51

YES.....

SouthernSpeed · 13-05-2010, 05:21

For the Ovni 345?

**boatman61** · 13-05-2010, 05:28

But of course.. lots more plus's than minus's.. speed, comfort, good storage, and french boats are very good..

SouthernSpeed · 13-05-2010, 06:17

I like the design, and it's ability to be beached, basically, shallow draft is good for Florida when I get back also. They also seem to hold value well, not that that matters really, just another plus.

SouthernSpeed · 13-05-2010, 06:54

I forgot, what are the minuses, all boat's have them, I just can't recognize any yet. I am sure I will with more research.

Mambo · 13-05-2010, 07:37

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Originally Posted by SouthernSpeed

I forgot, what are the minuses, all boat's have them, I just can't recognize any yet. I am sure I will with more research.

Have you checked out a sail calculator yet?

Here's a link so its not too much trouble:

Sail Calculator

Input the boats you like and search for similar boats. Look at the numbers which are outside of the curve. Those numbers will teach you about the tradeoffs inherent in various designs.

What books are you reading?

Better to ask for a reading list that will help you develop your thoughts about different boats than to ask an endless series of questions the answers to which may be interesting, but are unlikely to be enlightening.

None of this comes for free -- you have to invest yourself.

You say you have cruising experience. What sort? On what type of boat? Get on as many boats as you can.

MarkJ · 13-05-2010, 08:16

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Originally Posted by SouthernSpeed

I forgot, what are the minuses, all boat's have them, I just can't recognize any yet. I am sure I will with more research.

the minuses are cost, cost cost and centerboard.

Hydrolics.

Cost.

Jimmy Cornell.

Ooops, he isn't a minus.

Cost.

Read Jimmy Cornells books, he has had an Ovni 43(?) and liked his a lot. Whats he sail now??

If Jimmy has gone to a cat I will throw up! LOL.

SouthernSpeed · 13-05-2010, 14:59

Cruising- most on trimarans and some on monohulls, prefer trimarans, but not in this case.
Books- Can I have a list of books you would reccomend? I have been to libraries, but need to order some online.
Hydraulics- Is the system reliable? If it fails, is it easy to reach? Is there a backup system? Will it be safe without the centreboard?
Thanks for replying quickly, thanks for guiding, thanks for making my goal attainable.

**boatman61** · 13-05-2010, 15:30

Lol... as long as you dont over canvass she'll be fine centre board up... thats for directional stability...
I delivered a twin rudder Beneteau Clipper 331(wire winch centreboard)from the UK to the Algarve... did not drop the board once and boy did she fly...
They're well ballasted and the systems pretty simple.. if I remember correctly(Ovni)its hand pumped so it'll be a leak at a joint... unless you jam a rock up there beaching...

barnakiel · 13-05-2010, 15:50

Ovnis both el-pump and manual back-up. At least now.

In emergency the board can be dropped and locked without any pumps.

b.

barnakiel · 13-05-2010, 15:52

BTW which Ovni is a 'Smaller Boat' ???

They once made ??? 29' but all I know starts at 32 (very old if not too old) with the current models starting at 36 - not all that small at all!

b.

**boatman61** · 13-05-2010, 16:28

LOL... I know Barnie.. shifting goalposts.. to me smaller is under 27ft but there's quite a few here seem to think small starts at 35 and stops at 27... anything less is a dinghy... Hey-ho..
Last time I was on an Ovni was 07 in St Martin.. reason I thought it was a hand job was the little note by the pump stating how many pumps for 1/4, 1/2, etc...