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18-06-2009, 13:33
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#31
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Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: On the boat
Boat: Valiant 50
Posts: 509
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Its been two weeks since the last update.
How did you get it off? Or is it just shredded fiberglass now?
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The light at the end of the tunnel are no longer the headlights of the oncoming train......yippee
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18-06-2009, 13:47
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#32
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Registered User
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Skagit City, WA
Posts: 25,744
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Two lines, one to the halyard at top of mast, the other to towrail or mid cleat. pull the boat by the top of the mast until it tips free of the reef, then pull with both. Now how do yo keepit from sinking? Where's that thread about the 1000 empty water bottles....! Any empty oil drums around?
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18-06-2009, 13:57
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#33
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CF Adviser Moderator Emeritus
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Virginia
Boat: Island Packet 380, now sold
Posts: 8,943
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Here's an update--I just talked with Greg today.
The boat is still sitting on the reef. The good news is that the waves haven't been too big since the grounding, so it still seems to be in one piece. Greg likes the idea of creating a "sled" out of timbers and working them under the hull so it could be pulled off by a boat with a strong engine. He has a supply of 6"x6"s for the job. The problem is that the Receiver of Wrecks hasn't given him permission to conduct salvage operations in writing, only a verbal OK. Greg's concerned that if the reef is "damaged", he could be held liable, so he wants it all in writing.
The owner doesn't seem to be too interested in the boat, from what I've picked up. It turns out that it has no inboard engine. The crew was using an outboard, which was stolen by looters after the crew swam ashore and the police picked them up for "illegal entry". The three crew are back in Dominica now.
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25-06-2009, 14:12
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#34
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CF Adviser Moderator Emeritus
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Virginia
Boat: Island Packet 380, now sold
Posts: 8,943
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Things are looking dim
We had a bit of an increase in the Trades recently, causing larger easterly swells, and the grounded C&C 27 has been rotated and shifted a bit. She's lying noticeably deeper in the water, too. It appears that she's been moved off the shallowest part of the reef into deeper water.
Still no go-ahead for salvage from the Receiver of Wrecks, so chances for salvage are dim at this point. I noticed that though the boat and owner are from Dominica, it's flying the flag of Antigua and Barbuda. Curious...
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25-06-2009, 14:26
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#35
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Registered User
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Hotlanta
Boat: Hunter 23.5
Posts: 6
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Hud,
Seems to be a common theme..
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25-06-2009, 14:36
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#36
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Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Princeton, NJ
Boat: Challenger Anacapa 42
Posts: 2,097
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Hud, stick a fork in it...that boat is done.
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25-06-2009, 14:39
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CF Adviser Moderator Emeritus
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Virginia
Boat: Island Packet 380, now sold
Posts: 8,943
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Yep, Christian, I'm afraid you're right. As they say here on Nevis, "She all mash up, Mon. De boat, she finish."
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25-06-2009, 15:31
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#38
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Registered User
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Picton, ON
Boat: C&C 30 MkII
Posts: 127
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Send dee man to Sunshines for some killer bees!
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25-06-2009, 16:53
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#39
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Registered User
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Houston TX
Boat: Pacific Seacraft 25 "Turtle"
Posts: 364
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It seems a bit late but all the photos of the rescue of my boat show how we did it over ground. A bit different if your working in the water but it would have been doable if started right away and without "official" interuptions...........m
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I must go down to the sea again.........
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30-06-2009, 14:09
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#40
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Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Oxford. England
Boat: Trapper28
Posts: 4
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Unbolt the keelbolts
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30-06-2009, 15:06
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Join Date: Apr 2006
Posts: 15,136
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How odd, to American eyes. Which after all are close kin to the British and the laws and obligations a Receiver of Wrecks must have.
If the RoW is negigent in promptly discharging his duties, and that negligence or failure to take timely action results in the completer loss of the vessel, one might ask whether that RoW is now personally liable to both the salvor and the owner, for having destroyed the value of the owner's property by refusing the salvor to operate on the vessel.
Personally I'd rather see the RoW beaten with a good barnacle-encrusted stick. I fully expect that permission was denied because no one offered the RoW a hefty payment under the table. That's about the only plausible explanation (other than literal idiocy) for not ensuring a vessel is promptly salvaged and removed from the reef.
Unless...the removal now becomes a matter where the government will remove it and send the owners a bill--part of which pays for the operation of the RoW office.
Sorry, folks, but as American journalists say, if you can't understand what is going on, follow the money! This all points to pockets expecting to be lined, one way or another.
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02-07-2009, 02:26
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#42
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Registered User
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Homer, AK is my home port
Boat: Skookum 53'
Posts: 4,042
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Tis sad to see a perfectly good boat go to waste.
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" Wisdom; is your reward for surviving your mistakes"
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02-07-2009, 02:46
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#43
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Moderator Emeritus
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Ohio
Boat: Now boatless :-(
Posts: 11,580
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I think an earlier post eluded to teh RoW "concern" about reef damage getting the boat off. What damage caused by recovery wouldn't be caused by the boat breaking up on the reef?
And why is the RoW the authority on this?
Skids not greased is my assessment.
My boat definitely would have been recovered. We can sort the fines out later...
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02-07-2009, 13:01
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#44
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Registered User
Join Date: May 2009
Location: NJ, Paris FR and, for the moment, Cape Coral FL
Boat: Islander Freeport 41, AEGEA
Posts: 186
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Words of wisdom:
It is easier to get forgiveness than permission.
Dick Pluta
AEGEA
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04-07-2009, 11:16
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#45
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Registered User
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Panama
Boat: Steel trawler 63' Eileen Farrell
Posts: 961
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Do the right thing
Dude
It's the 4th of July, put that poor boat out of it's misery with a small canister of propane, a cigarette, and a book of matches.
HST would want you to.
Post pics.
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