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28-03-2011, 16:58
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Running Wires Outside of Pedestal and not in Pedestal Guard
The Current owner wants another piece of electronics on his pedestal guard.
There is no room to run any more wire thru it, even if there was the holes required for the plug might seriously degrade its' strength.
I am looking for an idea regarding a conduit that could be painted and easily bendable...gentle bends.
Would PVC work or does anyone have another idea?
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28-03-2011, 17:17
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Re: Running wires outside of pedestal and not in Pedestal Guard
I feel for you Chief.
We’ve been in the same situation, 10 lbs of stuff in a 5 lbs. sack. Have had good luck with gently warming a piece of PVC with a heat gun and shaping it on plumbers pipe bender. The biggest hurdle we’ve faced is trimming or fairing the end. What we can get away with some of the time is a SS Clam Shell with a little split sleeve between the gadget and the clam shell.
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28-03-2011, 17:20
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Stainless steel flexible conduit looks quite nice.
Dave
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28-03-2011, 17:20
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Re: Running wires outside of pedestal and not in Pedestal Guard
Delikon,leading manufacturer of electrical flexible conduits & fittings.
I have nothing to do with this company but it looks like they have products that you could use.
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28-03-2011, 17:24
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Re: Running wires outside of pedestal and not in Pedestal Guard
I am running into the same problem with my boat and I think I can use the cockpit table leg to run my wires threw and then a short hop to the pedestal guard. The table leg is about 3" in diameter and will hold many wires.
Not sure if this will help, but I needed to think outside of the box.... and it may work for me.
ShaunJ
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28-03-2011, 17:30
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Re: Running wires outside of pedestal and not in Pedestal Guard
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Originally Posted by goboatingnow
Stainless steel flexible conduit looks quite nice.
Dave
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The problem from a riggers point of view is keeping the flexable dead straight on a straight run. Even secured with whatever you still don't get that nice clean straight edge your looking for. It just looks neater if it's straight when it's supposed to be straight. Is that clear as mud?
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28-03-2011, 19:03
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Re: Running wires outside of pedestal and not in Pedestal Guard
Any chance you could provide a few pics of the routing Chief?
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28-03-2011, 19:07
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Re: Running wires outside of pedestal and not in Pedestal Guard
The best way is to go is with a larger diameter pedestal guard. Go to the Edson website to find what is available. If you try to go on the cheep side it will look....lubberly. What? You say the boat is ferocement? Okay, okay. Then bend PVC and hold it all together with bungee cord. It will look just fine.
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28-03-2011, 20:34
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Re: Running wires outside of pedestal and not in Pedestal Guard
Had same problem several years back, installed a separate ss pipe next to base of pedestal and guard and ran wires inside. Sealed core at base and used fittings at base and top to turn and sealed. Worked out well. Will be at boat in few days will take pictures and try to post.
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29-03-2011, 14:51
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Re: Running wires outside of pedestal and not in Pedestal Guard
Chief
I ran into the same problem with my because of previous owner running lots of wires into the pedestal.
I took the time and removed all the wires, eliminated all the hot wires and grounds from going into the pedestal. Then I just ran one wire yo a fuse block and ran all grounds to a block.
Was able to eliminate 8 sets of power lines that way...
'Just an idea..
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29-03-2011, 22:18
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Re: Running wires outside of pedestal and not in Pedestal Guard
I am also thinking about this lately to add a VHF remote to the pedestal and the plan in my head thus far is to do what hugosalt is suggesting. So +1 for him. ;-)
-p
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30-03-2011, 11:45
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Re: Running wires outside of pedestal and not in Pedestal Guard
Thin wall polybutylene pipe, such as used on yard sprinklers, is what I used to heat form various conduits for Bluestocking. Used up to 1 1/2" PIPE, Holds LPU paint good.
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30-03-2011, 16:55
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Re: Running wires outside of pedestal and not in Pedestal Guard
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30-03-2011, 17:42
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Re: Running wires outside of pedestal and not in Pedestal Guard
Linear PolyUrethane
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31-03-2011, 05:56
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Re: Running wires outside of pedestal and not in Pedestal Guard
When the boat was orginally commisioned the wires for the knotmeter and depth finder located at the helm was passed up the pedestal. That was back in '85. Several years ago I decided to install a chartplotter at the helm and thought the cleanest way was to install larger diameter pedestal guards so that wires could be passed through them. However, it was easier to just add a couple of more wires going up the pedestal itself. I did have to splice(with appropriate waterproof terminal) the GPS antenna lead in wire since the plug would not pass through the hole at the base of pedestal. In the future I may replace the depth finder and will probably have the same problem of passing the end fitting from the transducer through the hole. Since I don't like splicing these cables, running the wire outside the pedestal may be a possibility if a good looking solution can be found. However even with a good solution, it would still be necessary to drill another hole in the cockpit floor which I would not want to do.
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