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Old 01-10-2024, 08:45   #1
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nas for sailboat

Looking for suggestions for a rackmount NAS.

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Rackmount on a boat?
Without any other requirements given, Synology is a good rackmount NAS.
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SSD storage I assume.
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Mine is not rack mount, but I have a TerraMaster 2 slot with two 16Tb SSD's from Muskin in it. It runs off 12v. I think Brian from Delos has a rack mount NAS on their boat. I remember one time he showed the rack he has on the boat.

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also looking for a good NAS over wifi to put my remaining dvds on since i lost many to degradation over time.
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I've been looking at these desktop NAS systems from QNAP.

https://www.qnap.com/en-us/product?c...set_top_design

I'm not sure about 12v power for these.


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While not rack mounted TerraMaster, QNAP, Synology, Asustor all make NAS devices. Going to a rack mountable size will quadruple the price of a NAS. A shelf and non rack mount would still work well.
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Synology and QNAP are the leaders and you’d probably be fine with either. Personally I like Synology.

Although more expensive, I would prioritize SSD storage for use on a boat. I don’t think spinning drives are built for the type of shock and vibration they would experience and it would negatively affect their longevity.
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On a boat, I'd definitely be using all SSD storage, no spinning disks regardless of what NAS setup you buy or if you roll your own with a PC and something like Freenas. The SSDs would be for 2 reasons: lower power consumption and also better durability against shock and vibration.
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The OP hasn't come back to answer what his requirements are, or what it is used for. A rackmount NAS seems very unusual for a boat.

For a typical cruisers needs, JBOD with SSDs is probably more than adequate.
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How are those spinning HDD's holding up? how long have they presumably been on a boat? Genuinely curious as to your experience.
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How are those spinning HDD's holding up? how long have they presumably been on a boat? Genuinely curious as to your experience.
Some of them since 2016. Most all of them are 5+ years old. No corrosion or anything. The cabinet is under my nav desk at bottom of companionway just behind the boats centerline. That being said, i do have an external 20TB hard drive with all of them backed up onto just in case. I did have one drive failure that has been diagnosed as likely a faulty control board on the drive, so not really a problem from being on the sailboat and one drive had many, many faulty sectors. I never did a low level format though so its possible the bad sectors were from manufacturing because the drive failed within six months of being new. It actually still worked, i just didnt trust it anymore. The drives that are in regular use are working flawlessly and are the oldest in the system.

I recently rebuilt the system and put the drives behind the Kingwin hard drive power selector switch so now i can turn the drives off when not needed. Previously this was my main desktop so when it was on, all the drives were on and running. I do take it apart and clean all the connections etc about once every couple of years. Thats about it.

The system now is mostly for movie and data storage and has my CAD software. I have a MinisForum Mercury mini PC that i use for daily internet stuff, gaming , streaming etc that has 2TB SSD. Eventually I will probably transfer all the data from the platter drives to SSD's when they become dirt cheap.
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Rackmount on a boat?
Without any other requirements given, Synology is a good rackmount NAS.
Ok.

Requirements:
1 rackmount - nice and neat, secure
2 SSD - probably better suited to the forces of marine environment
3 12 volt - power - although will have 12v dc and 110v ac I think dc is better.
4 8-12 slots for SSD - 36-48 TB.
5 possibly 2 units in case of failure.
6 decode and feed at least 4 streams.

requirements can be down sized.

I have a synoloy DS412+. It can feed one stream. Its processor is not much more capable than that. I have been using this mainly for storing videos and watching them.

I intend to store photos and videos I shoot plus videos for entertainment.

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Ok.

Requirements:
1 rackmount - nice and neat, secure
2 SSD - probably better suited to the forces of marine environment
3 12 volt - power - although will have 12v dc and 110v ac I think dc is better.
4 8-12 slots for SSD - 36-48 TB.
5 possibly 2 units in case of failure.
6 decode and feed at least 4 streams.

requirements can be down sized.

I have a synoloy DS412+. It can feed one stream. Its processor is not much more capable than that. I have been using this mainly for storing videos and watching them.

I intend to store photos and videos I shoot plus videos for entertainment.

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You will not find anything rackmount that is 12V.

When you say "stream" you mean video stream? What codec and bit rate? You sound like you are looking for some professional level video storage. If you are looking for professional type use, you might quickly get into a very expensive system with 10G copper or fiber. So, details of exactly what you want to do are important. And, the "for a sailboat" requirement goes out the window. You will need to modify the boat as necessary, as none of that is "for a sailboat"

If your use isn't professional, and all you want is to watch video on 4 devices at the same time, your Synology will easily do that. If you can't, then something is wrong with your installation.

For higher end professional video applications, I have used both Facilis HUB and Dell Isilon / Powerstore. You can easily build a NAS or SAN costing upwards of $100k. I assume that isn't in your price range.
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