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10-06-2022, 02:12
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Nearly an old salt
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Lefkas Marina ,Greece
Boat: Bavaria 36
Posts: 22,801
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Lightening strike
Took two strikes to the mast this morning , vhf antenna was vaporised in one , predictably at first pass all the raymarine gear is dead , and as yet I can’t get my solar controller back up
At first glance the vhf radio survived as it works !! But haven’t actually tested it.
The boat seems watertight at first inspection
Can anyone suggest a course of action , this hasn’t happened to me before and in quite this way , should I have the rigging inspected ? , lift the boat etc.
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10-06-2022, 02:26
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Location: South of 43 S, Australia
Boat: C.L.O.D.
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Re: Lightening strike
Yikes!
Have you found any evidence of where the strike exited the boat?
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10-06-2022, 02:30
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Marine Service Provider
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Devon, UK
Boat: Sailing vessels up to 200 tons
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Re: Lightening strike
I'd have it hauled and surveyed by someone who understands lightning - insurance should meet the cost - any or all of the electrics and instrumentation could be damaged.
Good luck
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10-06-2022, 04:37
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Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Toronto area when not travelling
Boat: Nonsuch 30
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Re: Lightening strike
When we were hit many years ago the voltage regulator on the engine was fried. Not obvious at first glance. Talk to insurance and get a survey.
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10-06-2022, 05:28
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Nearly an old salt
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Location: Lefkas Marina ,Greece
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Re: Lightening strike
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Originally Posted by Wotname
Yikes!
Have you found any evidence of where the strike exited the boat?
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No , checked the chainplates under water throu hulls , etc. Nothing obvious , the battery was a huge ground strap to the keel so it may have exited via that , definitely the DC bus bar got a spike , ( my cheap Chinese led fittings , except for two ( out of 30 ) all survived !
Bizarrely my mast top anchor light still works , yet it literally vaporised the ray wind unit. Everything on the seatalk bus is seemingly dead as well as my solar pv system ( still testing this as a 30 fuse controller was blown )
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10-06-2022, 05:30
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Nearly an old salt
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Re: Lightening strike
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Originally Posted by edsailing
I'd have it hauled and surveyed by someone who understands lightning - insurance should meet the cost - any or all of the electrics and instrumentation could be damaged.
Good luck
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Do you think it needs an immediate haulout , I’ve a three hour motor trip back to my home base anyway , I won’t raise sail until I have the mast inspected
Insurance will cover survey etc. The instruments are old ( st 60) so I will get 70 of the new replacement value.
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10-06-2022, 05:43
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Marine Service Provider
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Port Credit, Ontario or Bahamas
Boat: Benford 38 Fantail Cruiser
Posts: 7,101
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Re: Lightening strike
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Originally Posted by goboatingnow
Took two strikes to the mast this morning , vhf antenna was vaporised in one , predictably at first pass all the raymarine gear is dead , and as yet I can’t get my solar controller back up
At first glance the vhf radio survived as it works !! But haven’t actually tested it.
The boat seems watertight at first inspection
Can anyone suggest a course of action , this hasn’t happened to me before and in quite this way , should I have the rigging inspected ? , lift the boat etc.
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Contrary to popular belief, lightning does not take the path of least resistance ... it takes "all" paths and is also likey to jump several feet. Side flashes through the hull are quite common. I've done several insurance investigations where side flashes caused thousands of pinholes in the hull from the waterline down.
Call your insurance and get her out of the water for a complete inspection.
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10-06-2022, 05:45
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Nearly an old salt
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Re: Lightening strike
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Originally Posted by boatpoker
Contrary to popular belief, lightning does not take the path of least resistance ... it takes "all" paths and is also likey to jump several feet. Side flashes through the hull are quite common. I've done several insurance investigations where side flashes caused thousands of pinholes in the hull from the waterline down.
Call your insurance and get her out of the water for a complete inspection.
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I still have to motor her for three hours , no haulout possible at this location
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10-06-2022, 05:49
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Marine Service Provider
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Location: Port Credit, Ontario or Bahamas
Boat: Benford 38 Fantail Cruiser
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Re: Lightening strike
A very interesting old thread that discusses side flashes.
https://www.cruisersforum.com/forums...ded-86839.html
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10-06-2022, 05:54
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Re: Lightening strike
Talking to surveyor the mast is grounded by a very very big cable to the forward keelboat. I d looked and see no obvious damage
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10-06-2022, 06:01
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Re: Lightening strike
One more piece of advice for anybody hit by lightning. Put off signing off on the final insurance settlement for as long as you can. It is not at all unusual for things that initially test out as OK, but are hanging on by a thread and die with just a little time/use.
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10-06-2022, 06:04
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Marine Service Provider
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Port Credit, Ontario or Bahamas
Boat: Benford 38 Fantail Cruiser
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Re: Lightening strike
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Originally Posted by ItDepends
One more piece of advice for anybody hit by lightning. Put off signing off on the final insurance settlement for as long as you can. It is not at all unusual for things that initially test out as OK, but are hanging on by a thread and die with just a little time/use.
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That has been my experience with investigating these claims too.
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10-06-2022, 06:05
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Location: Flagler County, FL, USA, Earth
Boat: Lagoon 380
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Re: Lightening strike
Ouch. Two strikes as in minutes apart? Anyone on the boat?
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10-06-2022, 07:05
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Lightening strike
Quote:
Originally Posted by team karst
Ouch. Two strikes as in minutes apart? Anyone on the boat?
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Yea me and yes about 2-3 mins apart
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10-06-2022, 07:10
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Nearly an old salt
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Location: Lefkas Marina ,Greece
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Lightening strike
For interest
What failed
The strike hit the ray marine wind unit , it vaporised and took the vhf antenna with it
What failed
Ray ais
Ray mfd
St60 Tridata
St60 depth
St4000+ AP
( probably the fluxgate is gone )
Victron mppt solar controller
( blew its battery fuse and a replacement shorted immediately )
2 Chinese led saloon lights ( all remaining eight are fine )
The vhf radio powers up and the mast top light remains working !!!
The engine works and the alternator is charging
All motors ( pumps etc ) incfridge are working
Clearly the spike came down the dc bus via the Seatalk feeds.
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