Cruisers Forum
 

Go Back   Cruisers & Sailing Forums > Engineering & Systems > Marine Electronics
Cruiser Wiki Click Here to Login
Register Vendors FAQ Community Calendar Today's Posts Log in

Reply
  This discussion is proudly sponsored by:
Please support our sponsors and let them know you heard about their products on Cruisers Forums. Advertise Here
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Rate Thread Display Modes
Old 01-01-2019, 03:33   #1
Registered User
 
Chotu's Avatar

Join Date: Jan 2018
Boat: 50ft Custom Fast Catamaran
Posts: 11,832
Internet Connectivity Cruising Maine?

Looking at cruising Maine this summer and it looks like there are a lot of coverage gaps for 4G service up there.

What's the best way to have an internet connection on the boat?

I run some small businesses and have to be online daily to manage them. No streaming video or anything. Just browsing websites and FTP and things like that.

What's the latest and greatest and least expensive solution these days?
Chotu is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-01-2019, 07:17   #2
Marine Service Provider
 
svmobert's Avatar

Join Date: Nov 2016
Location: Post Falls, ID
Boat: Jeanneau Sun Odyssey 45
Posts: 400
Re: Internet Connectivity Cruising Maine?

What kind of boat do you have?

The best deal right now for light web browsing, FTP, etc without breaking the bank is an Inmarsat Fleet One. It's about $3K for the hardware and then a service plan. They have a special Americas Leisure Unlimited plan that works up to 200nm off the coast for North/Central/South America. Speed is only 100kbps but still fast enough for light web browsing, etc. In a given month, the plan provides 30MB of data at 100kbps, followed by an additional 30MB of data at 32kbps, then unlimited at 16kbps. At the end of each month, the speed resets. https://www.sea-tech.com/product/fle...irtime-bundle/

Depending on how much data you think you need, this may or may not work. I know of a boater who uploaded videos to Facebook with this same plan, it took a while, but it worked.

After that, you would be looking at Iridium Certus, which will be more like $7K for hardware, and a few hundred $ per month, but higher speeds (750kbps to 1.5mbps). Certus isn't quite available yet but will be in a month or so.

Finally, there is KVH which is much faster and the data (per-MB) is much less expensive, but the hardware cost is much higher. https://www.sea-tech.com/product/kvh-tracphone-v3hts/

What do you absolutely need to be able to do for your business between cellular coverage areas?
__________________
Richard Anderson | Owner: Sea-Tech.com, DocksideRadio.com, KISS-SSB.com | Offshore and Marine Communications and Networking Expert, Consultant, Business Owner, Sailor, Student Pilot
svmobert is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-01-2019, 07:20   #3
Marine Service Provider
 
svmobert's Avatar

Join Date: Nov 2016
Location: Post Falls, ID
Boat: Jeanneau Sun Odyssey 45
Posts: 400
Re: Internet Connectivity Cruising Maine?

Also, if you are interested in a more formal consulting engagement on this, I offer a service tailored to your need. https://www.sea-tech.com/2018/11/05/...oring-service/
__________________
Richard Anderson | Owner: Sea-Tech.com, DocksideRadio.com, KISS-SSB.com | Offshore and Marine Communications and Networking Expert, Consultant, Business Owner, Sailor, Student Pilot
svmobert is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-01-2019, 08:28   #4
Registered User
 
Chotu's Avatar

Join Date: Jan 2018
Boat: 50ft Custom Fast Catamaran
Posts: 11,832
Re: Internet Connectivity Cruising Maine?

Sea Tech, thank you fir the run down in the current satellite offerings.

For half the money of the lowest cost system, it seems a monster 4G antenna, diversity antenna and signal booster as well as amplified wifi/antenna makes sense.

Though this is a fairly sketchy area with cellular signals, I'm not going Antarctica either.

Was looking for something a bit more sensible on the budget with better speeds (measured in MB/s not KB/s) and would work amazingly well when in civilization.
Chotu is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-01-2019, 08:54   #5
Marine Service Provider
 
svmobert's Avatar

Join Date: Nov 2016
Location: Post Falls, ID
Boat: Jeanneau Sun Odyssey 45
Posts: 400
Re: Internet Connectivity Cruising Maine?

Quote:
Originally Posted by Chotu View Post
Sea Tech, thank you fir the run down in the current satellite offerings.

For half the money of the lowest cost system, it seems a monster 4G antenna, diversity antenna and signal booster as well as amplified wifi/antenna makes sense.

Though this is a fairly sketchy area with cellular signals, I'm not going Antarctica either.

Was looking for something a bit more sensible on the budget with better speeds (measured in MB/s not KB/s) and would work amazingly well when in civilization.
You can certainly enhance your cellular signal with some reasonable equipment. One way would be to use a Cellular Booster, to increase the signal strength of your existing devices. Alternatively, you can use a Cellular Router/Extender that has it's own SIM card and a local WiFi network to access the Internet via long-range cellular.

I recently posted a blog that runs down the current list of cellular options on the market. Take a look at that and it may give you a good start.
https://www.sea-tech.com/2018/12/30/...e-for-my-boat/

The primary requirement is to get the antenna up high enough for long range. General wisdom there is 20ft above the water, or higher. 20ft elevation gets you generally about 20nm without obstructions.. But if you are cruising in areas of hills, mountains, fjords, etc, where line-of-sight to a tower is blocked, then the range will be less of course. A high-mounted antenna with clear visibility in all directions will bring in a signal better than a phone inside the boat can.
__________________
Richard Anderson | Owner: Sea-Tech.com, DocksideRadio.com, KISS-SSB.com | Offshore and Marine Communications and Networking Expert, Consultant, Business Owner, Sailor, Student Pilot
svmobert is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-01-2019, 11:00   #6
Registered User
 
CaptTom's Avatar

Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Southern Maine
Boat: Prairie 36 Coastal Cruiser
Posts: 3,119
Re: Internet Connectivity Cruising Maine?

Where do you plan to cruise? Do you anchor out or use marinas?

Cell data coverage is indeed spotty, but most of the populated areas do have good signals. Better if you have a good booster.

If your needs aren't too bandwidth-hungry, and you don't go too far out, a tethered cell phone or dedicated cellular hot spot may do the trick. There will be a few places that just don't work; move a few miles and you should be OK.

Another consideration is which carrier. Most of the big names have decent coverage in the South coast of Maine, although having a service that can use different carriers (or having two plans) is better. Farther Down East, you get into US Cellular territory. Nothing else will work, for example, in Eastport. Google Fi has a plan that uses several carriers, including US Cellular. They also allow tethering, and you can get a second SIM card on the same plan for a mobile hotspot. Down side is you do pay $10/G for data.
CaptTom is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
cruising, internet, maine


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Internet Connectivity Frozen Chosen Liveaboard's Forum 29 01-02-2013 19:00
Isatphone Pro Internet Connectivity Motley Marine Electronics 9 25-02-2012 08:45
Internet Connectivity in the Bahamas vhannan Atlantic & the Caribbean 15 10-01-2009 16:32
Internet Connectivity When Miles Offshore. cisco007 Fishing, Recreation & Fun 55 14-07-2008 15:36

Advertise Here


All times are GMT -7. The time now is 08:03.


Google+
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Social Knowledge Networks
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.

ShowCase vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.