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27-07-2021, 13:06
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Registered User
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: SC
Boat: None,build the one shown of glass, had many from 6' to 48'.
Posts: 10,206
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Re: in hull transducer - do they work ok?
It sounds like you have it covered hull thickness and angle. Transducers can work fine inside the hull.
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27-07-2021, 13:07
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Registered User
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: North East USA
Boat: 1975 Tartan 41'
Posts: 1,053
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Re: in hull transducer - do they work ok?
Yes it works. I used a cheap transom mount fish-finder xducer caulked into my hull and it worked fine.
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27-07-2021, 13:41
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#18
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Registered User
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Monterey, CA
Boat: '14 Greenline 33 Hybrid m/v
Posts: 333
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Re: in hull transducer - do they work ok?
I put a fairly high-end Garmin GT51M Transom-mount with Traditiional, CHIRP, and Side-view modes in the bilge, first with K-Y jelly, duct-taped into place. All modes except Side-view, or course, worked brilliantly with good bottom detail - up to 1400' in Trad. mode going over the edge of the Monterey Canyon! Then did final install. with clear silicone sealant.
The hull solid layup is vacuum-bagged with vinylester resin which may explain the unexpected results...
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27-07-2021, 16:31
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Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2013
Posts: 272
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Re: in hull transducer - do they work ok?
I've used both, on a total of 3 boats.
They all worked OK, more likely to have problems with readout than transdicers, as shallow waters seem to fool many that try to "smooth", readings and are well behind the actual depths.
Just make sure you know the precise distance from transducer mounting tp keel tip.
All my boats have had retractable keels, as i starterd sailing around shoal waters.
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27-07-2021, 18:21
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#20
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Registered User
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Careel Bay Pittwater
Boat: Custome Open BOC 50' cutter rig
Posts: 374
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Re: in hull transducer - do they work ok?
Have you installed them inside Alumiuim Hulls? I ask as I have an Alumiuim hull, most of the information I found was for inside transducer installation inside fiberglass hulls. I would like to know if they also could be installed inside Alumiuim hull boat? thanks
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Originally Posted by FPNC
Have installed quite a few shoot through the hull senders. Some very large senders about 7" diameter. Always had good luck with setting them in polyester casting resin. This worked even at extreme angles to the hull bottom in deep vee hulls. The fiberglass substrate must be free of voids and any core material. Avoid fiberglass overlap areas if possible as there is a better chance of air bubbles in the laminate at these points.
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27-07-2021, 19:04
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Join Date: May 2011
Location: Lake Ont
Posts: 8,570
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Re: in hull transducer - do they work ok?
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Originally Posted by kryg
Have you installed them inside Alumiuim Hulls? I ask as I have an Alumiuim hull, most of the information I found was for inside transducer installation inside fiberglass hulls. I would like to know if they also could be installed inside Alumiuim hull boat? thanks
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Get a baggie, fill it with some water, stick your transducer in the baggie, and try some different spots. I expect it would work ok.
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27-07-2021, 19:06
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Registered User
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Daytona Beach, Florida
Boat: 1988 Wilbur 34
Posts: 295
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Re: in hull transducer - do they work ok?
Yes, they work great. I will never drill another hole to mount a transducer.
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27-07-2021, 19:34
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Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Australia
Boat: Island Packet 40
Posts: 6,501
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Re: in hull transducer - do they work ok?
I have a fish finder experiment going on at the moment.
The fish finder is a Hummingbird I used on another boat and the subject vessel FG with a pretty heavy lay up. I prefer the dish finder as it gives an indication of bottom conditions when anchoring and one may immediately discern the depth trend from the display rather than remembering numbers.
To check it out I cut a short length of plastic down pipe to the correct angle and pushed glad wrap down into it to hold water. The down pipe is big enough to take the transom mount transducer which usually comes with the fish finder as standard.
It seems to work well and I will now bond the down pipe to the hull and put a lid on it.
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27-07-2021, 21:47
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Registered User
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: San Antonio, TX/Bocas del Toro, Panama
Boat: 1990 Macintosh 47, "Merlin"
Posts: 2,844
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Re: in hull transducer - do they work ok?
We have one and it works just fine.
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27-07-2021, 23:53
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Join Date: May 2009
Posts: 26
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Re: in hull transducer - do they work ok?
On our 1977 built Catalac (in the days when only solid fibre glass was used in boat construction ) , the transducer pipe was bonded to the inside of the hull from new ,, Depth sounder is by the British instrument co ; NASA Marine (nothing to do with the space agency) whom specify a 150k/Hz transducer that should be immersed in cooking oil (mineral oil could permeate the transducer) ,,, uorks fine ...As an aside we have an ancient but working fine Simrad CP33 plotter , which has the facility for a depth sounder input ,, but I have no info what spec transducer , specifically frequency is required , if anyone has any information it would help to have 'back up' depth ....
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28-07-2021, 03:54
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#26
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Registered User
Join Date: Feb 2019
Posts: 13
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Re: in hull transducer - do they work ok?
I have a Hawkeye inhull transducer. I tried it out in what I though would be a poor position but it was the easiest for me to get to - about 2 feet directly aft of the keel. It worked fine when temporarily tried with vaseline. Then I took the boat for a run to try to upset it with turbulence and it didn't miss a beat. So now it is permanently epoxied in that place and has been faultless.
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29-07-2021, 15:19
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Registered User
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: Boat in Preveza Greece, awaiting our next trip, we are based Sunshine Coast Australia
Boat: Jeanneau SunFast 43
Posts: 80
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Re: in hull transducer - do they work ok?
Thanks for all your responses, the wealth of experience on CF is amazing. So yes I am going for the in hull option.
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29-07-2021, 16:07
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Registered User
Join Date: Jan 2018
Boat: 50ft Custom Fast Catamaran
Posts: 12,215
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Re: in hull transducer - do they work ok?
Well damn. Mine didn’t work.
I did the epoxy method after decoring the spot. Epoxied it right in and it doesn’t work.
Newest Raymarine unit.
Down to my faulty installation. Possibly I got air bubbles in the epoxy I bed it in
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29-07-2021, 16:29
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Registered User
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Port Aransas, Texas
Boat: 2019 Seawind 1160 Lite
Posts: 2,126
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Re: in hull transducer - do they work ok?
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Originally Posted by Chotu
Well damn. Mine didn’t work.
I did the epoxy method after decoring the spot. Epoxied it right in and it doesn’t work.
Newest Raymarine unit.
Down to my faulty installation. Possibly I got air bubbles in the epoxy I bed it in
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We cut out the core and inner skin. Then back filled back to level with epoxy. Let that setup, laid in a cone-shaped pile of silicone, and pushed the transducer down into it. The cone shape helps bubbles migrate outward when displaced by the transducer. Worked beautifully on two boats. And if it didn't, silicone much easier to work with removing the transducer.
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29-07-2021, 16:35
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running down a dream
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Florida
Boat: cape dory 30 MKII
Posts: 3,214
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Re: in hull transducer - do they work ok?
i epoxied a transducer puck to the inside of my hull. it worked fine
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